Thats part of the reason Sidious is more compelling than most Sith. He's the only one who enjoys the shit out of being evil. He's not bland, he's constantly emoting strongly. You can actually buy that this guy isn't just getting power for powers sake or is just a boring ball of anger.
The same goes for other Sith who display more complex emotions like Kreia and Valkorion.
Originally posted by SunRazer
It doesn't matter how they're written. The point is that they exist. And that there's a lot of them.@Nephthys - Traya's so much more of an ordinary Sith in the game script and near the end of the game.
Traya succeeds where basically every other Sith fails in actually making it seem like a sane point of view with some weight behind it.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Caedus definitely spirals into the standard Sith mental shitstorm. Vectivus is almost certainly a line of bullshit from Lumiya.
We do see Vectivus' Ghost, who isn't quite the same as most other Sith. But Lumiya was probably making up half of what she said, yeah.
There's also Ajunta Pall, who finally felt remorse for his dark sided acts after millennia in hibernation as a Force spirit.
Originally posted by Ursumeles
He has sadistic tendencies, but he also cares for his people and his daughter.
Could be.
Plenty of Sith with sadistic tendencies still have some affection for others or noble ideals. Maul w/ Savage and Talzin, canon!Dooku with Ventress and his history with the Jedi, canon!Vader, etc.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Vectivus is certainly more interesting than most. Moreso is Gravid, whose studies of the dark side somehow drew him towards the light side.
I could definitely see someone who studies the dark side academically wind up going to the light.
*read Sith history*
"lol nope. i'm outta here."
With the lone exception of Sidious, the Sith are a nasty strain of epic failure.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Plenty of Sith with sadistic tendencies still have some affection for others or noble ideals. Maul w/ Savage and Talzin, canon!Dooku with Ventress and his history with the Jedi, canon!Vader, etc.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Traya succeeds where basically every other Sith fails in actually making it seem like a sane point of view with some weight behind it.
I don't mean her grudge against the Force. I have much less against that than most people do.
I'm talking about the game script mentioning her 'smiling evilly" every time she does something shady, or her talking at the end about breaking the Exile and making her kill Atton in front of her (Traya). The stuff about breaking the Exile makes little sense, other than forcing her to kill Kreia.
Otherwise, the idea of the endgame was that Kreia wins regardless of what happens in the Core. If she kills you, she deafens everyone in the galaxy to the Force, which achieves her goal. But even if she doesn't, she still gets freedom from the Force through dying (until TOR stupidly retconned her into the Entity, that is), and she succeeded in finally training a Force user who learned to live without the Force.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I could definitely see someone who studies the dark side academically wind up going to the light.*read Sith history*
"lol nope. i'm outta here."With the lone exception of Sidious, the Sith are a nasty strain of epic failure.
Sidious succeeded moreso than others, but he still failed in the end.
Traya was one of the few Sith that won in the end.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Sidious succeeded moreso than others, but he still failed in the end.Traya was one of the few Sith that won in the end.
Traya's goal was to kill the Force lol. Which incidentally has zilch to do with the Sith.
Sidious's goal was to destroy the Republic, destroy the Jedi, and rule the galaxy. The longstanding Sith goals. He succeeded.
No question that he failed to achieve his personal endgame, live eternally and rule everything ever.