Originally posted by |King Joker|
[B]Yeah, it also makes it so contractors can discriminate against their employees and customers based on sexual orientation if they want, and invalidates all other anti-discrimination laws in municipalities all over North Carolina. But who cares.
It'd be less of a shithole if businesses weren't running away.
And as for a scientific basis regarding transgender people, here is a study suggesting a biological basis.
Which is an old study from 2011 reposted in 2016. Where as this is a study from this year.
"In 2010, Mohammad Hassan Murad and colleagues from the Mayo
Clinic published a systematic review of studies on the outcomes of hormonal
therapies used in sex-reassignment procedures, finding that there
was “very low quality evidence” that sex reassignment via hormonal interventions
“likely improves gender dysphoria, psychological functioning and
comorbidities, sexual function and overall quality of life.”91 The authors
identified 28 studies that together examined 1,833 patients who underwent
sex-reassignment procedures that included hormonal interventions
(1,093 male-to-female, 801 female-to-male).92 Pooling data across studies
showed that, after receiving sex-reassignment procedures, 80% of patients
reported improvement in gender dysphoria, 78% reported improvement
in psychological symptoms, and 80% reported improvement in quality of
life.93 None of the studies included the bias-limiting measure of randomization
(that is, in none of the studies were sex-reassignment procedures
assigned randomly to some patients but not to others), and only three of
the studies included control groups (that is, patients who were not provided
the treatment to serve as comparison cases for those who did)."
In short: Using bad science to beg the question is not something you should do when the outcome is vacuuming your penis inside out.
There's no scientific basis for transgender whatsoever, as far as we can tell at the moment. And given the mast suicidal rates after "corrective" surgery, there's really nothing to support it either. It would be easier if more than 21,000,000 people in the entire world at one time identified as this. But they don't because the transgender population is miniscule. You don't get to cut corners because of this to force legislation.
Yes, the thing is with trans people the suicide rate even post op is..it doesn't even really change.
I know people would love to just blame that on society treating them badly, but the suicide rates of these people are astronomical even when you compare them to other groups that suffered just as much, if not more.
I find it sick and disturbing we support this kind of mutilation. I find it sick and disturbing some people even encourage young children to "choose a gender". I find it sick and disturbing there is even one state in the USA that will cut your cock off all on the tax payers dime.
Originally posted by SurturWherr are you getting your numbers ? Link ?
Yes, the thing is with trans people the suicide rate even post op is..it doesn't even really change.I know people would love to just blame that on society treating them badly, but the suicide rates of these people are astronomical even when you compare them to other groups that suffered just as much, if not more.
I find it sick and disturbing we support this kind of mutilation. I find it sick and disturbing some people even encourage young children to "choose a gender". I find it sick and disturbing there is even one state in the USA that will cut your cock off all on the tax payers dime.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Wherr are you getting your numbers ? Link ?
Ben Shapiro, which I certainly realize isn't an actual link. Looking it up, I was kind of wrong though. What was said was that the only other group in history with suicide rates comparable to trans people were..Jews and Austrians living under nazi rule during WW2.
Certainly doesn't seem like a figure that would be hard to check, and it certainly is really odd if it's a true figure that the only comparable suicide rate is people during the holocaust.
On the other hand I did try to find any articles that suggest the trans suicide rate is comparable to other groups like blacks during the slavery era or blacks in the decades following the end of slavery and..nothing showed they were similar.
Originally posted by SurturSo do you realize and try to empathize with the gravity of their dire outlooks ? If it's this bad and you haven't experienced the world through their lens how do you suggest we go about changing this.
Ben Shapiro, which I certainly realize isn't an actual link. Looking it up, I was kind of wrong though. What was said was that the only other group in history with suicide rates comparable to trans people were..Jews and Austrians living under nazi rule during WW2.Certainly doesn't seem like a figure that would be hard to check, and it certainly is really odd if it's a true figure that the only comparable suicide rate is people during the holocaust.
On the other hand I did try to find any articles that suggest the trans suicide rate is comparable to other groups like blacks during the slavery era or blacks in the decades following the end of slavery and..nothing showed they were similar.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So do you realize and try to empathize with the gravity of their dire outlooks ? If it's this bad and you haven't experienced the world through their lens how do you suggest we go about changing this.
What I'm saying is..if we're going to blame the suicide rates of trans people post op on society itself, we surely need to examine other historically oppressed groups and those suicide rates. Because that is the only real way the narrative of "it's just society, it's not because they are mentally ill" works. They sure as hell haven't suffered as badly as those who suffered at the hands of the nazi's. They surely haven't had to experience slavery or systemic racism. The only thing they are denied is having to use the correct bathroom, as opposed to "trans gender only" drinking fountains, schools, restaurants, etc.
I empathize with the mentally ill. That is why I'm disturbed that we are asking children to choose genders and hell in Oregon they made it so 15 year olds can get transgender surgery(on the tax payers dime). You don't even need parental consent.
You ask how we change this? Let us assume for a second this is a mental illness and let us assume it's not societies fault that they still kill themselves post op. Isn't the solution obvious? We stop giving them surgeries and shit and indulging in these crazy fantasies.