Originally posted by aalyasecura95
well repealing woman right to vote actually trended on twitter with trump supporters so trump could do that at some point if it gets really bad. it's up to the liberals and progressives to unite to keep him from doing sexist things. will be really hard 4 years ahead for anyone who cares about freedom and equality.
Yeah but you yourself have said women are owed a "sexism debt". Can you blame people who feel you shouldn't have any say in important matters?
Originally posted by Surturso you're saying that people shouldn't have a say in democracy and should be banned from there freedom of speech because there beliefs are against the patriarchy and are for womens rights....?
Yeah but you yourself have said women are owed a "sexism debt". Can you blame people who feel you shouldn't have any say in important matters?
so fascist, sexist and anti-1st amendment? good to know. and it proves that trump supporters are the actual people who hate this country and everything it was founded on. freedom of speech for you and your fascist chums but people who disagree with you 'shouldn't have any say in important matters'.
just shows massive difference between clinton and trump people. when clinton lost, she stepped down and actually tried to repair the divisions this country. and clinton supporters who didn't like it peacefully protested as is there right. if clinton won the picture would be WAY different. trump would cry like a ****ing baby and you and others would be throwing a tantrum and getting violent like at the rallies but ten times worse.
also the 'sexism debt' as i described it is obviously a thing.... women have been oppressed for years so it is only fair that we try to focus on women's rights and be more sensitive on women's issues in the coming years (although trump will make that basically impossible, might as well try). you are so stuck in your privelege that any focus on women's rights is automatically sexist when its actually correcting the wrongs with are society.
Originally posted by Emperordmbwell men were entitled with every decent job and position in government since civilization began until very recently ..... no one seems to complain about that but once people start campaigning for womens rights its suddenly a bad thing and 'self-victimization and entitlement'.
True equality comes from the realization that you aren't more important than anyone else. Self-victimization and entitlement is selfish.
Originally posted by aalyasecura95
so you're saying that people shouldn't have a say in democracy and should be banned from there freedom of speech because there beliefs are against the patriarchy and are for womens rights....?
Or at least banned until they use "there" properly.
so fascist, sexist and anti-1st amendment? good to know. and it proves that trump supporters are the actual people who hate this country and everything it was founded on. freedom of speech for you and your fascist chums but people who disagree with you 'shouldn't have any say in important matters'.
Something tells me if I asked you to define fascism for me you'd have to run over to wikipedia.
just shows massive difference between clinton and trump people. when clinton lost, she stepped down and actually tried to repair the divisions this country. and clinton supporters who didn't like it peacefully protested as is there right. if clinton won the picture would be WAY different. trump would cry like a ****ing baby and you and others would be throwing a tantrum and getting violent like at the rallies but ten times worse.
One of the other differences is the inability to tell when someone is joking.
also the 'sexism debt' as i described it is obviously a thing.... women have been oppressed for years so it is only fair that we try to focus on women's rights and be more sensitive on women's issues in the coming years (although trump will make that basically impossible, might as well try). you are so stuck in your privelege that any focus on women's rights is automatically sexist when its actually correcting the wrongs with are society.
I think we've been sensitive enough about women's issues. It's time we started wondering why they get more lenient sentences for violent crimes, why men who rape are evil but women who lie about being raped and get men thrown into prison aren't, why their word is usually believed over that of a man's, why men tend to get f*cked over so badly in court, why we have battered women's shelters but not battered men's shelters despite domestic abuse against men not being drastically lower than the number of cases where it's against women, etc.
Also NO, a sexism debt is not a thing. Have you received a sexism debt check in the mail? Oh, you haven't? Then how could it possibly be an obvious thing? What are you talking about? I guess you could say a sexism debt SHOULD be a thing, but to say it is an "obvious thing" in the context you did just boggles the mind.
You talk about correcting the wrongs of society, but why is it the only wrongs that concern you seem to be the way women have supposedly been wronged? Let's be honest for a second: if every complaint you have about women's rights changed and was the way you wanted, but nothing else in the country changed? You wouldn't be here griping about anything.
Originally posted by aalyasecura95
so you're saying that people shouldn't have a say in democracy and should be banned from there freedom of speech because there beliefs are against the patriarchy and are for womens rights....?so fascist, sexist and anti-1st amendment? good to know. and it proves that trump supporters are the actual people who hate this country and everything it was founded on. freedom of speech for you and your fascist chums but people who disagree with you 'shouldn't have any say in important matters'.
just shows massive difference between clinton and trump people. when clinton lost, she stepped down and actually tried to repair the divisions this country. and clinton supporters who didn't like it peacefully protested as is there right. if clinton won the picture would be WAY different. trump would cry like a ****ing baby and you and others would be throwing a tantrum and getting violent like at the rallies but ten times worse.
also the 'sexism debt' as i described it is obviously a thing.... women have been oppressed for years so it is only fair that we try to focus on women's rights and be more sensitive on women's issues in the coming years (although trump will make that basically impossible, might as well try). you are so stuck in your privelege that any focus on women's rights is automatically sexist when its actually correcting the wrongs with are society.
LMAO
Paul Krugman literally said America is a failed society because rural white people elected Trump.
Originally posted by aalyasecura95
well men were entitled with every decent job and position in government since civilization began until very recently ..... no one seems to complain about that but once people start campaigning for womens rights its suddenly a bad thing and 'self-victimization and entitlement'.
Okay at this point you're trolling us all. Nobody seems to complain about men being in charge? Really?
You have literally been complaining about this, you literally JUST complained about it today. Nobody cares? So you've never heard a feminist spew any of the stuff you are saying? Not one time?
Can I come live with you in your magical land with rivers of butterscotch pudding and tree's made of chocolate ice cream? It sounds like a wonderful place to pass the time.
Originally posted by Surturwhatever with this bs
Or at least banned until they use "there" properly.
Originally posted by Surturnah i've read about history and know what fascism is. a mixture of racism and the crackdown of freedoms like trump and his supporters have proposed
Something tells me if I asked you to define fascism for me you'd have to run over to wikipedia.
Originally posted by Surturwell it was a sexist joke and very offensive
One of the other differences is the inability to tell when someone is joking.
Originally posted by Surtur
I think we've been sensitive enough about women's issues. It's time we started wondering why they get more lenient sentences for violent crimes, why men who rape are evil but women who lie about being raped and get men thrown into prison aren't, why their word is usually believed over that of a man's, etc.Also NO, a sexism debt is not a thing. Have you received a sexism debt check in the mail? Oh, you haven't? Then how could it possibly be an obvious thing? What are you talking about? I guess you could say a sexism debt SHOULD be a thing, but to say it is an "obvious thing" in the context you did just boggles the mind.
no we definitely have not being sensitive enough lmao. people still deny wage gap and sexual assault and pretend its not a thing. the american people also just voted for a guy who admitted sexual assault and touching women without consent. pretty sure we need to be WAY more sensitive.
also i obviously mean a figurative sexism debt. i'm not talking just about money lol. i'm talking about how men have got all the focus and priveleges so we should at least devote some time for womens rights to fully even the playing field because the patriarchy has been going on for a long time and so a big gap has emerged.
Originally posted by aalyasecura95
well men were entitled with every decent job and position in government since civilization began until very recently ..... no one seems to complain about that but once people start campaigning for womens rights its suddenly a bad thing and 'self-victimization and entitlement'.
Originally posted by Surturlol why do you take my words so ****ing literally? i say "sexism debt" and you assume i mean money and ask whether i have received a check in the mail. now you're taking my use of "nobody" fully literally. obviously there are people like feminists who do point these things out and try to get them out there but very few people who are white male and priveleged complain about these things and always use double standards. when i say "nobody", i'm obviously referring to the people who always try to say that feminists feel "entitled" when all men have been "entitled" for a very long time.
Okay at this point you're trolling us all. Nobody seems to complain about men being in charge? Really?You have literally been complaining about this, you literally JUST complained about it today. Nobody cares? So you've never heard a feminist spew any of the stuff you are saying? Not one time?
Can I come live with you in your magical land with rivers of butterscotch pudding and tree's made of chocolate ice cream? It sounds like a wonderful place to pass the time.
Voting for a woman because she's a woman isn't sexist, Dmb you're being a dummy. You aren't voting against a man because he's a man, you're voting for a woman because it'll be empowering to women if she gets elected. That isn't sexist, no one is being discriminated against.
It's pretty much the exact opposite of sexism. 😬
Originally posted by Nephthys
Voting for a woman because she's a woman isn't sexist, Dmb you're being a dummy. You aren't voting against a man because he's a man, you're voting for a woman because it'll be empowering to women if she gets elected. That isn't sexist, no one is being discriminated against.
We should vote for the person who we expect to do the job best, not vote for someone to spite the patriarchy or whatever.
If we want true equality, we need to get rid of the us and them mentality, and electing someone because they aren't male doesn't do that, it just perpetuates sexism.
Originally posted by aalyasecura95
whatever with this bs
Tell us more.
nah i've read about history and know what fascism is. a mixture of racism and the crackdown of freedoms like trump and his supporters have proposed
Have you truly read about history or are you just going by what you learned in your gender studies class?
well it was a sexist joke and very offensive
I hear blowing bubbles and looking at pictures of puppies helps.
people still deny wage gap
People deny that the Earth is flat too. I wonder why they do that?
and sexual assault and pretend its not a thing.
So we pretend sexual assault is not a thing? I can't figure out how so many women have been able to get men in trouble by lying about rape if we pretend sexual assault doesn't exist.
the american people also just voted for a guy who admitted sexual assault and touching women without consent. pretty sure we need to be WAY more sensitive.
Did you know Hilary Clinton helped defend a man who raped a 12 yr. old girl? Even though she believed he was guilty?
No, do not come back at me with "she was just doing her job". Where was her sensitivity then? Can you answer that? Where was her sensitivity when she went after all the women who accused her husband of sexual misconduct? This is the same woman who said women have a right to be believed.
also i obviously mean a figurative sexism debt. i'm not talking just about money lol. i'm talking about how men have got all the focus and priveleges so we should at least devote some time for womens rights to fully even the playing field because the patriarchy has been going on for a long time and so a big gap has emerged.
There is no figurative sexism debt either though. Saying men SHOULD pay some kind of intangible debt to women doesn't actually mean there is a debt.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Voting for a woman because she's a woman isn't sexist, Dmb you're being a dummy. You aren't voting against a man because he's a man, you're voting for a woman because it'll be empowering to women if she gets elected. That isn't sexist, no one is being discriminated against.It's pretty much the exact opposite of sexism. 😬
Do you have any assorted thoughts regarding the election?