The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by ares8343,287 pages

Ares, you agree that Tarkin is infinitely better than Hux, right?

Thats kind of the point though?

Originally posted by ares834

It pleases me that you've come 'round at last.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Thats kind of the point though?

Yes, yes, I know: the point of TFA is that its villains suck and this is demonstrative of good storytelling because omg clever subversions.

Lol

Tarkin would make Hux cry like a Hillary voter just by being in his presence

What was so impressive about Tarkin ? Hux made it out of a trilogy film Tarkin was clueless to his fate until as it was occurring. As per rogue one he tried taking credit from the guy who got the Death Star made. Tarkin is about as weasely and lame as it gets.

Hux spewed and frothed a lot. Tarkin was colder, calmer, and much more intimidating. I generally find that much more appealing than a ranting fanatic.

So let me get this straight, Tarkin is lamer... because he died...

the only reason Hux didn't die was because the collapse of Starkiller base was a drawn out process, whereas the explosion of the Death Star was instantaneous. If the destruction of Starkiller base had been instantaneous like that of the Death Star, Hux would be dead at the end of TFA.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Hux spewed and frothed a lot. Tarkin was colder, calmer, and much more intimidating. I generally find that much more appealing than a ranting fanatic.
I like a guy that frothes at the mouth right before he orders the annihilation of multiple planets. I also didn't find Tarkin to be intimidating at all.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
So let me get this straight, Tarkin is lamer... because he died...

the only reason Hux didn't die was because the collapse of Starkiller base was a drawn out process, whereas the explosion of the Death Star was instantaneous. If the destruction of Starkiller base had been instantaneous like that of the Death Star, Hux would be dead at the end of TFA.

No, he is just less successful. Tarkin stole the Death Star he wasn't behind its completion nor did he even believe in it until he saw the demonstration. Tarkin wasn't aware of the Death Star and was oblivious. It's his fault for assuming the control of something he was ignorant on. Hux will froth on while Tarkin is annihilated.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I like a guy that frothes at the mouth right before he orders the annihilation of multiple planets. I also didn't find Tarkin to be intimidating at all.

Interesting.

Honestly Tarkin was a delight to watch in Rogue One. For both the mind blowing special effects and his on screen presence.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Interesting.
See these for examples of what I enjoy in a villain

You enjoy the subtlety in your Palpatine. I usually go for the more straight forward villains who can't be reasoned with. Everyone knew what Voldemort wanted and there was no one on the planet who could have convinced him otherwise. #awesome

Palpatine could be reasoned with? 😕

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Palpatine could be reasoned with? 😕
And very quickly. Vader convinced him to not kill Luke and attempt to convert him. Ironically this resulted in Palpatine's death.

Originally posted by quanchi112
See these for examples of what I enjoy in a villain

You enjoy the subtlety in your Palpatine. I usually go for the more straight forward villains who can't be reasoned with. Everyone knew what Voldemort wanted and there was no one on the planet who could have convinced him otherwise. #awesome

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Interesting.

That's a bit of a misinterpretation. Yeah, I love Sheev. I also like Tarkin, whose solution to problems is just to blow them up. I also despise Littlefinger and love Tywin Lannister, who is very matter-of-fact and pretty damn straightforward.

I like a range lol. A good villain is a good villain and they come in all stripes.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
That's a bit of a misinterpretation. Yeah, I love Sheev. I also like Tarkin, whose solution to problems is just to blow them up. I also despise Littlefinger and love Tywin Lannister, who is very matter-of-fact and pretty damn straightforward.

I like a range lol. A good villain is a good villain and they come in all stripes.

I agree that exceptions can be made but I prefer the ones you can't reason with. A good contrast is found on the walking dead. Negan can be reasoned with but the Governor can't. To me the Governor is a much more enjoyable villain than Negan.

I didn't know you liked anyone save Sheev. My holy trinity is pretty well known of villainy.

Yeah, I'd say I like more characters out there than just Sheev.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I prefer the ones you can't reason with.

mmm

Do ever you find yourself emulating some of their behavior?