Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
No it doesn't. It states that Vader didn't want to kill him when he thought he had Starkiller at his mercy. A position Starkiller purposefully put himself in in an attempt to get Vader to lower his guard. A ploy that ultimately succeeded."Vader didn't want to kill him, but not out of mercy or sympathy for his lot. The Dark Lord had invested far too much time and energy in re-creating his former apprentice, and he wouldn't want to throw all that away. [b]Not when he seemed on the verge of victory."
- The Force Unleashed II.The novel notes Vader was still going all out.
"Starkiller maintained his efforts to get to Juno, and Darth Vader did everything in his power to stop him. Neither would capitulate. Neither would be the first to break. Their wills were locked." - The Force Unleashed II.
No, he drove back Vader when enraged. Vader drove back Starkiller when Starkiller enraged him. They fought evenly for the rest of the fight with Vader keeping Starkiller away from Juno near the end before he enacted his ploy. [/B]
Your selective quoting is downright enraging at this point. I don't give a f-uck what you think, and I told you a hundred times.
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
This is all part of the plan. "Yeah, yeah, you know, he caught me off guard once. I'll let him beat me this time so he takes me captive."***
"But there was definitely moments where Starkiller faces off very cocky against Vader, maybe near the beginning of the game, and Vader *houses* him. And he says "how are you doing this?" And he's says "I'm Darth Vader."...
...that Vader had been gaming him, quite a bit."
***
Yeah, absolutely, I'll give you little tidbits. The story of 3 was going to be as I understand it, thematically the terror of Darth Vader, because, you know, Haden Blackman wasn't about to have you beat this guy two times in a row without making a very strong point at the end of the third one and throughout the third one. That, you know there is, there is a... you know, I shouldn't say too much in case this all happens...
-- Far, Far Away: Episode VIII: Sam Witwer
http://geeknation.com/podcasts/far-far-away-episode-viii-sam-witwer/
<.<
I still wish we got this....
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNovaThat'd be interesting...
No it doesn't. It states that Vader didn't want to kill him when he thought he had Starkiller at his mercy. A position Starkiller purposefully put himself in in an attempt to get Vader to lower his guard. A ploy that ultimately succeeded.
But one thing's clear: by the time he disarmed him, he was trying to kill him.
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
This is all part of the plan. "Yeah, yeah, you know, he caught me off guard once. I'll let him beat me this time so he takes me captive."***
"But there was definitely moments where Starkiller faces off very cocky against Vader, maybe near the beginning of the game, and Vader *houses* him. And he says "how are you doing this?" And he's says "I'm Darth Vader."...
...that Vader had been gaming him, quite a bit."
***
Yeah, absolutely, I'll give you little tidbits. The story of 3 was going to be as I understand it, thematically the terror of Darth Vader, because, you know, Haden Blackman wasn't about to have you beat this guy two times in a row without making a very strong point at the end of the third one and throughout the third one. That, you know there is, there is a... you know, I shouldn't say too much in case this all happens...
-- Far, Far Away: Episode VIII: Sam Witwer
http://geeknation.com/podcasts/far-far-away-episode-viii-sam-witwer/
The first quote is referencing the DA. Vader knew he could have the DA kill Starkiller at any time but instead he planned to let him live one to find out the location of the Rebel base and so that he could once again attempt to turn Starkiller to his side. Vader isn't the type to just take a win and let things lie. He wants his cake and to eat it too.
That's why at the end of the game he tells Starkiller, "As long as she lives, I will always control you."
Because he plans to use her to turn him in the third game and he still wants Starkiller as his other apprentice.
The second I already explained above.
The last quote is utterly meaningless and tells us nothing.
Originally posted by Geistalt
That'd be interesting...But one thing's clear: by the time he disarmed him, he was trying to kill him.
Did you read the quote? Starkiller thinks to himself that an indefensible position is exactly what he needs.
He allows himself to be disarmed and gets Vader to lower his guard.
Exploits an opening on Vader's armor Juno had made earlier.
If you're talking about Vader throwing a lightsaber at Starkiller while he's holding onto a wire in the game then it states in the novel that Starkiller would survive a fall like that but he wouldn't be in any condition to continue fighting Vader.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
The first quote is referencing the DA. Vader knew he could have the DA kill Starkiller at any time but instead he planned to let him live one to find out the location of the Rebel base and so that he could once again attempt to turn Starkiller to his side. Vader isn't the type to take a win and just leave. He wants his cake and to eat it to.That's why he told Starkiller at the end of the second game.
"As long as she lives, you will never be free."
The second I already explained above.
The last quote is utterly meaningless.
Well it's actually.
"As long as she lives, I will always control you."
I have to say Obama is being pretty reasonable in his speech and I pretty much agree with most of what he said minus the 1% bashing.
Anyway....
REPEAT AFTER ME: PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, DONALD JOHN TRUMP!
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Ironic considering you're one of the meat heads who killed discussion value.Like, only people like Joker, MCP, etc, and a few others actually debate these days. Everyone else just trolls and drop one-liners.
I'm doing more than you, lmfao.
Everyone trolls, including those people. Anyways, does this mean you're ready to start the CaV?