Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Sel's arguing China can rival the USA's army in ten years. 😂Unless they put their entire economy into it, they're going to need a lot more time.
Sad day for commies.
Christ your comprehension is awful. I said 15-20 🙂
You also cannot simply look at a snap shot of current spending. China's military is not 1/4th as strong as the US's simply because it spends a quarter of what the United States does.
And since we're talking two decades down the line, you need to look at the larger picture trajectories.
China's military budget in 2012 was roughly 110 billion dollars, but the department of defence predicted they received nearly 180 billion. What you need to keep in mind is that in 2002, a decade prior, the Chinese government were spending twenty billion on defence.
You're saying China needs some U-Turn to start spending more than the US. They do not. They simply need to continue on their current trajectory.
Again, please do some more research. 😬
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Chinese budget for the military this year is $147 billion it looks like, compared to the USA's $582 billion.That's four times the spending. Four times the power. 😉
That is truly awful logic.
The navies are relatively evenly matched as it is. China has nearly 1 million more active military personnel. They have a relatively even ground force in the way of vehicles to boot. The American Air Force drastically outstrips the Chinese, but that is rapidly changing.
If military spending equalled military might, you might have a point. There's a reason people are torn on whether China will continue it's current trajectory though, you cannot simply look at spending and act like that equals power 😬
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Lmfao, their current trajectory isn't getting them there in 15 years.
Sweetie, that's a 400% increase in 10 years. Their budget has been growing exponentially, not linearly. Take this as a graphic example:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/China_Military_Budget_2012.png
Again, this is with the Pentagon predicting that Chinese military spending is far greater than what they publically announce. Accept you're incorrect, jesus.
Originally posted by Selenial
Sweetie, that's a 400% increase in 10 years. Their budget has been growing exponentially, not linearly. Take this as a graphic example:https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/China_Military_Budget_2012.png
Again, this is with the Pentagon predicting that Chinese military spending is far greater than what they publically announce. Accept you're incorrect, jesus.
The spending increase this year is 7%. Take the L.
I never denied the possibility of China spending more than what they showed either. In fact I saw that when getting some stats. I see no evidence what they're spending is significantly different though, lmfao. Take another L for attempting to claim a W when none was provided.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66China's navy is growing, sure, but saying they're even at the minute is... just ****ing wrong.
I mean, that graphic omits details like the Chinese having roughly 140 Coastal Defence craft, that the United States do not. The US Navy seems more centralised, the Chinese more widespread.
Hard to compare, though I admit the US's is stronger.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coastal_defence_ship
These? I doubt they'll make any noteworthy impact whatsoever.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
And? The growth has died off as of late.The spending increase this year is 7%. Take the L.
I never denied the possibility of China spending more than what they showed either. In fact I saw that when getting some stats. I see no evidence what they're spending is significantly different though, lmfao. Take another L for attempting to claim a W when none was provided.
You're still ignoring the fact that defence spending does not indicate a stronger defence force. You're neglecting to take into account that a significant proportion of the US's defence budget will be dedicated not to renewing or expanding their military, but to the numerous active operations the United States is engaged in.
Operations China is not. There is a reason that most credible sources claim if China continues at current spending the US will be outmatched, I don't know why you think you can repeat number values and pretend that it indicates an inability to be surpassed mmm
Oh, and if the Pentagon is reporting a 70 billion difference between their claimed value and the actual value, how much the Chinese government admits to increasing is kind of irrelevant.
Care to provide any number for that "significant proportion?" Also that provides the army with additional combat experience, the creation of new tactics to solve situations, overall improvement of the army, regardless. Given the current USA expenses is over three times greater than China, I imagine it's at least two or close to three times bigger excluding Syria and the like, which is insane.
Lmfao you sound like CNN. "Credible sources."
180 billion is still vastly inferior to the USA. And "credible sources," which I can actually link, are all commenting on how China's military growth this year is almost nonexistent, so it seems they think China's telling the truth.
Thor, Spidey and Cap for me.
The first Thor film was actually pretty popular at the time. Second most after IM pre-Avengers (even post).
But after Thor:TDW, Winter Soldier and GOTG, plus Thor having a pretty weak role in AOU, Thor's franchise seems to be far less popular now, whilst Cap and Guardians are the new next top dogs after IM.
Hopefully though Ragnarok will help boost Thor again.
