The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by Selenial3,287 pages

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Not to mention China is powered by child labor and low-paying workers.

No pride. No spirit. No humanity. No country.

Have you ever actually been to China? That's an interesting stereotype that seems perpetuated by the media and government in the United States.

The Chinese are fiercely patriotic, just as patriotic as most Americans. They have a richer culture than the U.S can ever dream of, and they're well on their way to outsourcing their own low-paying jobs as well, as I've already told you.

Again, simply inaccurate 🙂

It's annoying shifting through all that BS, but it seems you concede China won't ever rival the USA as a military superpower.

😂

Comes to a fight between Athens and Sparta, Sparta's going to win (and historically has). 👆

Originally posted by Selenial
Have you ever actually been to China? That's an interesting stereotype that seems perpetuated by the media and government in the United States.

The Chinese are fiercely patriotic, just as patriotic as most Americans. They have a richer culture than the U.S can ever dream of, and they're


It's not patriotism if the government holds a gun to your head to force you to like it.

The liberals and commies aside, American patriotism is genuine and on the rise.

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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
It's annoying shifting through all that BS, but it seems you concede China won't ever rival the USA as a military superpower.

😂

Comes to a fight between Athens and Sparta, Sparta's going to win (and historically has).

You've yet to explain why a military superpower is even relevant at the moment.

But I think two quotes would be quite applicable here 🙂

Originally posted by Selenial
Ant continues to epitomise the failures of the US education system 🙂

Originally posted by Selenial
Even still, given China's ever advancing economy and it's massive political influence [...] is translating into an increasingly large military, which will likely rival that of the states in the next fifteen years

Glad your sixth grade history teacher managed to at least drill in that the Spartans won military conflicts though. Truly impressive work 🙂

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
It's not patriotism if the government holds a gun to your head to force you to like it.

The liberals and commies aside, American patriotism is genuine and on the rise.

facepalm

You are truly beyond saving, lmfao.

cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4465417/patriotism_around_the_world_clean.png

Pathetic! China is one of the least patriotic countries.

Based on that poll, the Chinese have next to no patriotism. Can't blame them either.

Also if that poll didn't include all the LGBT and other commies, USA patriotism would be among the top.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4465417/patriotism_around_the_world_clean.png

Pathetic! China is one of the least patriotic countries.

Let's do a quick education exercise. I want you to point out all the things wrong with using that in an argument. If you don't respond, I'll assume you can't think of anything, at which point I'll happily tear it apart for you 🙂

You're just mad the Chinese want to kill themselves for being commies, tbh.

Also a quarter of my private school is foreign exchange students from China.

USA education can't be that bad if they care so much about it back in China.

You don't see people from the USA going out to Commie countries commonly to study.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-so-many-chinese-students-come-to-the-u-s-1462123552

May Trump forgive me for quoting commie websites, but I figure you should read something you can relate to.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66

Comes to a fight between Athens and Sparta, Sparta's going to win (and historically has). 👆
And then Rome comes, and ****s them up.

Anyway, without the US, nations like the EU, Canada, Australia, possibly Russia, Japan & Turkey; would prevent China from dominating UK - not that I think China would attack a Nuclear Power, with a decent military at the other side of the World, anyway.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-so-many-chinese-students-come-to-the-u-s-1462123552

May Trump forgive me for quoting commie websites, but I figure you should read something you can relate to.


"Commie websites"? As in a conservative paper?

Originally posted by Ursumeles
And then Rome comes, and ****s them up.

Anyway, without the US, nations like the EU, Canada, Australia, possibly Russia, Japan & Turkey; would prevent China from dominating UK - not that I think China would attack a Nuclear Power, with a decent military at the other side of the World, anyway.


Alien invasion?

Not what I meant, tbh. Pathetic they have to rely on other countries for support. Once a great power, now nothing.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
"Commie websites"? As in a conservative paper?

WSJ lost its' conservative status and was demoted alongside the commies after the YT scandal.

The UK is still one of the greatest powers on earth, tbh.
Obviously not in a league with China or the US, but still powerful.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You're just mad the Chinese want to kill themselves for being commies, tbh.

Alright, so like I said, I'm going to have to assume you've utterly failed to spot the flaws in your own argument. Nothing tremendously new there I guess.

Let's start with the obvious: the language barrier. The chinese language is incredibly precise, more-so than English. The word 'pride' is ridiculous when used in the concept of patriotism. You can love your country and be devoted to it, while most certainly not being proud to be Chinese or American. I'm not proud to be British, why in ****s name would I be proud of a genetic accident? It's what, less than a one in one hundred chance of being born here? I have no pride over something I did nothing to accomplish. I am happy to be British, I would not choose to be born somewhere else, I still am not proud of it.

Furthermore, the impact of language is important in terms of publicity. American patriotism is often, and loudly, associated with the word proud. It's not that difficult for you to say you are proud of being an American, since it's drilled into you relentlessly that you should be. The Chinese government however are historically cautious about instilling nationalistic values into their populations, because they do not want their historically diverse nation to split apart. The only pride the PRC ever push is pride in China's power, not the country itself. If people are never exposed to the idea of being actually proud in being a member of the nation, they're not likely to pick the answer on a survey someone gave them, lmao.

That's not even counting the plethora of factors that having nothing to do with the above. For example, if this poll asked Americans on January 20th how many of them are proud of their country, the results would be even lower than they are now. (I'd inform you that this poll was conducted between 2010-2014, so more than likely the liberals are the ones propping the poll numbers up). If you however asked them after the Americans came out top in the Olympics, their pride is likely to be much higher. These are extreme examples, but context is incredibly important and often overlooked in polls like this.

All this is kind of irrelevant though, when you realise I was talking about patriotism, not pride. Patriotism is your dedication to your country, not pride. The Qatari's are the least patriotic people I've ever met in my life.

I never claimed China was more patriotic than the US, but here's an interesting poll that indicates it potentially is:
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/12915/patroglob.png

The current UK is like 14 BBY Vader, compared to once being ROTS Anakin.

USA is the son of the UK and is NJO Luke.

China's like a Barsen'thor.

Originally posted by Selenial
Alright, so like I said, I'm going to have to assume you've utterly failed to spot the flaws in your own argument. Nothing tremendously new there I guess.

Let's start with the obvious: the language barrier. The chinese language is incredibly precise, more-so than English. The word 'pride' is ridiculous when used in the concept of patriotism. You can love your country and be devoted to it, while most certainly not being proud to be Chinese or American. I'm not proud to be British, why in ****s name would I be proud of a genetic accident? It's what, less than a one in one hundred chance of being born here? I have no pride over something I did nothing to accomplish. I am happy to be British, I would not choose to be born somewhere else, I still am not proud of it.

Furthermore, the impact of language is important in terms of publicity. American patriotism is often, and loudly, associated with the word proud. It's not that difficult for you to say you are proud of being an American, since it's drilled into you relentlessly that you should be. The Chinese government however are historically cautious about instilling nationalistic values into their populations, because they do not want their historically diverse nation to split apart. The only pride the PRC ever push is pride in China's power, not the country itself. If people are never exposed to the idea of being actually proud in being a member of the nation, they're not likely to pick the answer on a survey someone gave them, lmao.

That's not even counting the plethora of factors that having nothing to do with the above. For example, if this poll asked Americans on January 20th how many of them are proud of their country, the results would be even lower than they are now. (I'd inform you that this poll was conducted between 2010-2014, so more than likely the liberals are the ones propping the poll numbers up). If you however asked them after the Americans came out top in the Olympics, their pride is likely to be much higher. These are extreme examples, but context is incredibly important and often overlooked in polls like this.

All this is kind of irrelevant though, when you realise I was talking about patriotism, not pride. Patriotism is your dedication to your country, not pride. The Qatari's are the least patriotic people I've ever met in my life.

I never claimed China was more patriotic than the US, but here's an interesting poll that indicates it potentially is:
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/12915/patroglob.png


You had to write an essay to say that patriotism isn't even apart of the Chinese language and that the government discourages pride?

Lmfao. You should have just googled an L and took it.

Not even the Chinese government is proud of being Chinese. 😂

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You had to write an essay to say that patriotism isn't even apart of the Chinese language and that the government discourages pride?

Lmfao. You should have just googled an L and took it.

Not even the Chinese government is proud of being Chinese. 😂

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/12915/patroglob.png

Still more patriotic than the US, though 🙂

This must be embarrassing for you, sweetie. I gave you every opportunity to back out of that pathetic argument, though.