TBH, as an atheist married woman, secular marriages at all shouldn't ever have become a thing. They're an entirely religious construct, even if atheists wanted their own thing I see no reason for an atheist to marry in a church other than aesthetics.
I hold that same view for gay marriage tbh. Shouldn't be a thing because it's inherently secular, and in no way should any religion ever be forced to carry out a gay marriage in their customs or places of worship. As long as secular straight people can get married though, there's literally no ****ing reason same sex individuals can't.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNovaNo, I'm very interested! 😱
"Whatever skill the jedi master possessed in the force barriers was negated as the sith"should be
"Whatever skill the Jedi master possessed in the Force, his barriers were negated as the Sith"
Also, have you read the Plagueis/Shaak Ti rape fanfic?
Originally posted by SelenialMarriage predates modern religion so not really. It's a vital social construct that has had religious connotations attached to it.
TBH, as an atheist married woman, secular marriages at all shouldn't ever have become a thing. They're an entirely religious construct, even if atheists wanted their own thing I see no reason for an atheist to marry in a church other than aesthetics.
I hold that same view for gay marriage tbh. Shouldn't be a thing because it's inherently secular, and in no way should any religion ever be forced to carry out a gay marriage in their customs or places of worship. As long as secular straight people can get married though, there's literally no ****ing reason same sex individuals can't.Maybe, maybe they should just get over it. 🙁
Originally posted by Kurk
[b]Hey guys! I've been inspired by some of the fan fiction nova has been sharing and decided to write my own.Here is an excerpt from a story I might complete in the future; let me know what you think. Thanks! 😄
....Qui-Gon managed to raise his green-blade in an over-head block just a tenth-of-a-second before the older, faster Muun's scarlet blade could lop the human jedi's head off.
Jinn's forearms ached more with every clash of the energy-blade; the sith's technique was far beyond his own, not to mention the sheer power he possessed which transferred into every strike.
Qui-Gon noticed his vision dimming as he felt the all-too-familiar sense of force exhaustion closing down on him. Plagueis's blade was everywhere while Jinn's own felt heavy and unresponsive.
It was now that Jinn truly experienced the limitations of Ataru when forced on the defensive. The critiques from his old master Dooku emerged in his mind momentarily as Qui-Gon remembered the time when his master compared Ataru to piloting an over-burdened frigate with only half the thrusters in operation.
This lapse in thought was enough to give the Muun sith a considerable opening which he of course took advantage of. Qui-gon saw a flash of light coming from his hand as the better swordsman severed the hilt of Jinn's saber in half.
Before the jedi master could react, Plagueis extended two of his gray, twig-like fingers in a choke grip. Qui-Gon instinctively grasped at his throat as if he could release the invisible force constricting his esophagus. Whatever skill the jedi master possessed in the force barriers was negated as the sith forced Jinn onto his knees. He extended his crimson saber in front of the jedi's throat.
"So this is how it ends", thought Qui-Gon as he slowly closed his eyelids and braced for the impact of the energy-blade against his throat.
It never came.Qui-Gon was surprised to hear the Muun sith speak for the first time;
"No", he whispered. "Too easy".
Plagueis deactivated his saber and placed it within his dark garb.
The smaller jedi's confusion quickly turned to frantic fear when the Muun unclasped his cloak, allowing it to fall to the floor to reveal the entirely of his naked body.And then Qui-Gon saw it. He understood how vulnerable he was to it. Frozen in both shock and Plagueis's telekinetic grip, Qui-Gon could only let out a gasp and then a scream and Muun's erect penis approached his face.
Jinn simultaneously felt ice-cold fingers grab his nape and Plagueis's penis force its way into his mouth.
When would it stop? Qui-Gon was at the complete mercy of the elder sith. He felt it go deeper, and deeper into mouth. Qui-Gon's screams stopped as Plagueis's c0ck entered past his uvula and into the esophagus which only moments ago was pinched shut.
Back and forth, and forth and back. Word's couldn't describe the pure horror going through Qui-Gon's mind as Plagueis violated him. He couldn't bear to look up to the Muun's face, completely engulfed in a cruel grin.
And then he came. Plagueis let go of the jedi's head and with one final thrust embedded his black c0ck into the back of Qui-Gon's throat. He let his head back and howled in lascivious pain as he let out his load inside of the helpless jedi master.
And it was over.
Plagueis slowly slid his appendage out of Jinn's mouth and allowed any remaining semen to drip down onto the human's beard. Qui-Gon collapsed onto the floor as the sith released him from his grip after what seemed like hours.
"Please kill me", thought Qui-Gon.
As if the sith heard him, Plagueis responded;
"Oh but we're not done yet. The dark-side of the force is a pathway to many abilities, some considered to be unnatural".
And with that Qui-Gon was seized once again and rolled over onto his stomach.He heard a thud behind him as Plagueis dropped to his knees.
"NOOOO!", screamed the battered jedi.
Plagueis once-more placed his tendril-like hands on Qui-Gon, this time on a seam on his robes just above the small of his back. Plagueis pulled back the clothing revealing the bare buttocks of his prey.
"NOOOO, PLEASE!", again screamed Jinn.
Plagueis thrusted in throbbing black c0ck into the jedi. The sith pulled from the dark-side of the force and he fueled his act with all his inner hatred. With long, deep strokes, Plagueis violated Qui-Gon for the first and last time in his life. Qui-Gon howled and cried, tears streaming down his face but with no avail. He felt a warm liquid drip down his thigh, and he knew it wasn't coming from his attacker.He didn't think it could go any deeper. Qui-Gon was already bleeding profusely. The Muun's c0ck was tearing his flesh, widening his rectum. Qui-Gon was weakening. He felt cold. Too cold. He was drifting away from it all, losing sight of the surrounding he all so desperately wanted to get away from. And then nothing.
Plagueis rose from the spot where he killed jedi master Qui-Gon Jinn. The sith retrieved his garment off the floor and walked towards the exit of the building. It would be years until anyone discovered the remains of the once esteemed jedi master. [/B]
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Also, have you read the Plagueis/Shaak Ti rape fanfic?
Originally posted by Selenial
TBH, as an atheist married woman, secular marriages at all shouldn't ever have become a thing. They're an entirely religious construct, even if atheists wanted their own thing I see no reason for an atheist to marry in a church other than aesthetics.I hold that same view for gay marriage tbh. Shouldn't be a thing because it's inherently secular, and in no way should any religion ever be forced to carry out a gay marriage in their customs or places of worship. As long as secular straight people can get married though, there's literally no ****ing reason same sex individuals can't.
The vast majority of gay people just want the license and papers though.
And honestly, if some churches do allow and invite gay couples and marriage into their place of worship then why the **** not?
Although can't people do weddings without the pastor and use someone else? I forget the word for it but it exists.
Originally posted by Selenial
TBH, as an atheist married woman, secular marriages at all shouldn't ever have become a thing.
The breakdown of the traditional family unit is a tragedy in the US (by traditionally family unit I mean two parents and kids, fine with me if they're same sex), one that has a negative impact on the children of the next generation, and society and the economy as a whole. Single motherhood for instance is the largest predictor of inter-generational poverty, and kids raised by single mothers are statistically more likely to end up in poverty, drop out of school, have a negative attitude towards authority, and get involved in crime. Arguably the main reason for the problems currently faced by black communities in America.
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
The vast majority of gay people just want the license and papers though.And honestly, if some churches do allow and invite gay couples and marriage into their place of worship then why the **** not?
Although can't people do weddings without the pastor and use someone else? I forget the word for it but it exists.
You mean eloping?
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Marriage predates modern religion so not really. It's a vital social construct that has had religious connotations attached to it.
No, unions between people predate modern religion. The marriage ceremony, pact, financial implications and divorce proceedings are all founded in or were created by the religious community.
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
The vast majority of gay people just want the license and papers though.And honestly, if some churches do allow and invite gay couples and marriage into their place of worship then why the **** not?
Which is fair enough. One could make an argument for protestant churches to perform ceremonies, but no Catholic church ever will. I just think the public pressure on catholicism to change is both misplaced and highly hypocritical.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yeah marriage for atheists and gays should still be a thing since they are very important to society.
I misspoke, I'm talking specifically the religious connotations, and the huge amount of societal customs we have drawn from a frankly regressive society. The majority of societal expectations come from Religious backgrounds, because Religion and Marriage were so interlinked. I both believe the ideas of a secular marriage and a religious one should be more separated, and that an atheist frankly should not be marrying in a religious ceremony.
But that's just me.
This has kind of been on my mind recently given the controversy surrounding Tim Farron, the leader of the British Liberal Democrats. He refused to answer whether gay sex was a sin, and the media ate him alive. People claim he couldn't even stand as a liberal candidate if he thinks gay sex is a sin, which is by far the stupidest ****ing argument I've ever heard in my life. A legitimate opposition party with a reasonable chance at a strong showing this election, and all anyone cared about was the the fact he was actually willing to be a good catholic....