To be honest, Freshesta and DMB are right. The education system is no place for this kind of discussion, it never has been. Attempting to shoehorn LGBTQ acceptance into the curriculum is ****ing retarded, and reeks of an inability to actually defend ones own beliefs.
I do not expect my children to be exposed to every form of living in a controlled school environment, and I am glad of that. Encountering these individuals in the real world without preconceived notions of what various forms of sexuality mean is the only way they can form pure, unadulterated opinions for themselves. For a group who argue sexuality and gender are not binary and even impossible to rigidly define, y'all sure want a lot of preaching about what you think is correct mmm
What the **** does 'opinion' mean in the context of this? A pure, unadulterated 'opinion' on LGBT people? There's no room for opinion on this issue, there's fact, and I'd much rather not encounter some retarded child who has a negative opinion of me right off the bat because of what he's been fed by his main source of information, his peers. Teaching kids in school about the diversity of humans and the intricacies of human sexuality are absolutely necessary in order for ignorance about the issue to be disspelled. That's not to say I want the education to be a "GAY IS OKAY" forcefeed course, but just talking honestly about LGBT people and the facts regarding them harms literally no one and prevents kids from forming possibly negative stereotypes in their head about LGBT.
And yet here you are, very much alive and very much able to ***** on the internet about your first world problems, so it can't be too crucial. When you live in some middle eastern or African hell hole where you get thrown off a roof, get back to me. The "intricacies" of sexuality have next to nothing to give to the vast, vast majority of people on the planet, so forcing it on children sounds beyond reprehensible. And the real "facts" about the LGBT community aren't the things that people from the LGBT community want taught to adults, let alone little kids. I could get into some domestic and disease stats, but I digress.
You can't teach people to accept you, and everyone isn't going to accept you even if you could.
Jesus Christ, literally every single time you post you manage to get more retarded. If being gay wasn't a ****ing problem where I was at maybe I would be out of the closet, but no, I'm not, and lmfao at your assumptions about anything regarding what it's like to be gay. Yes, wow, I'm able to live and talk about this shit on the Internet, I guess meeting the absolute bare minimum is grounds enough for me to shut the **** and stop talking about the issues? And guess what, it doesn't ****ing matter if the vast majority of people aren't affected personally by LGBTs, and you know why? Because they still ****ing determine legislation on LGBT issues. They vote for candidates that are against pro-LGBT causes all the time and have for the vast majority of the world's history, and do you know why a major ****ing reason for that is? THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOMOSEXUALITY BECAUSE THEY ARE IGNORANT. They get their information from horseshit sources and make consequential decisions based on that. And I literally ****ing laughed out loud when you used the term "forcing it on children" as if talking about LGBT is damaging them in some way and they're being harmed. And ****ing newsflash, education on LGBT issues doesn't mean talking about anal sex (which health classes do anyways, at least in my experience), so they are hardly getting psychologically scarred when a teacher talks about how two men or two women being attracted to each other is a natural occurrence.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
Jesus Christ, literally every single time you post you manage to get more retarded. If being gay wasn't a ****ing problem where I was at maybe I would be out of the closet, but no, I'm not, and lmfao at your assumptions about anything regarding what it's like to be gay. Yes, wow, I'm able to live and talk about this shit on the Internet, I guess meeting the absolute bare minimum is grounds enough for me to shut the **** and stop talking about the issues? And guess what, it doesn't ****ing matter if the vast majority of people aren't affected personally by LGBTs, and you know why? Because they still ****ing determine legislation on LGBT issues. They vote for candidates that are against pro-LGBT causes all the time and have for the vast majority of the world's history, and do you know why a major ****ing reason for that is? THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOMOSEXUALITY BECAUSE THEY ARE IGNORANT. They get their information from horseshit sources and make consequential decisions based on that. And I literally ****ing laughed out loud when you used the term "forcing it on children" as if talking about LGBT is damaging them in some way and they're being harmed. And ****ing newsflash, education on LGBT issues doesn't mean talking about anal sex (which health classes do anyways, at least in my experience), so they are hardly getting psychologically scarred when a teacher talks about how two men or two women being attracted to each other is a natural occurrence.
Originally posted by |King Joker|Public schools are absolutly not the place to be teaching kids about the intricacies of sex. A broad overview of safe sex, pregnancy and disease prevention is one thing. The intricacies of sex are a different matter.
What the **** does 'opinion' mean in the context of this? A pure, unadulterated 'opinion' on LGBT people? There's no room for opinion on this issue, there's fact, and I'd much rather not encounter some retarded child who has a negative opinion of me right off the bat because of what he's been fed by his main source of information, his peers. Teaching kids in school about the diversity of humans and the intricacies of human sexuality are absolutely necessary in order for ignorance about the issue to be disspelled. That's not to say I want the education to be a "GAY IS OKAY" forcefeed course, but just talking honestly about LGBT people and the facts regarding them harms literally no one and prevents kids from forming possibly negative stereotypes in their head about LGBT.
Not only that but where does it end. I'm sure every group of people that feels like they're slighted in some way would like to have a day of school or week of classes dedicated to teaching kids about the facts of their situation and to accept their group, but that's simply not feasible.
Would u also be in favor of instituting classes for Muslim acceptance, Jewish, Asian , overweight, midgets, mixed race families etc... all of them? I'm sure they would help those groups. But how much of my kids actual education am I willing to sacrifice for every other groups cause in the world? Short answer is, when it comes to my kid, not much.
Originally posted by Raptor22I didn't say the intricacies of sex, I said the intricacies of human sexuality, which is different. And honestly, I was more thinking about just a brief section in a class where the teacher clarifies misconceptions about homosexuality -- misconceptions such as it being a "choice" and whatnot. I also don't understand why everyone is seeming to think I want five-year-olds to be taught this stuff; I don't, this is more of a matter for middle school and certainly high school, ages where sexuality is actually relevant and kids should be mature enough to comprehend the issue (not that homosexuality is that complicated anyways in and of itself, but I digress). Also, if anyone here actually gives a shit about LGBT people, which I doubt but whatever, health classes shouldn't limit safe-sex talks to just heterosexual relationships, because, shockingly, gay people actually exist and have sex too. Everyone likes to mention HIV / disease rates for gays, so of course, you people would be in favor of bringing those rates down by talking about practicing safe sex in homosexual relationships in a high school class, correct? 🙂
Public schools are absolutly not the place to be teaching kids about the intricacies of sex. A broad overview of safe sex, pregnancy and disease prevention is one thing. The intricacies of sex are a different matter.Not only that but where does it end. I'm sure every group of people that feels like they're slighted in some way would like to have a day of school or week of classes dedicated to teaching kids about the facts of their situation and to accept their group, but that's simply not feasible.
Would u also be in favor of instituting classes for Muslim acceptance, Jewish, Asian , overweight, midgets, mixed race families etc... all of them? I'm sure they would help those groups. But how much of my kids actual education am I willing to sacrifice for every other groups cause in the world? Short answer is, when it comes to my kid, not much.
Human sexuality is a more relevant and pervasive topic I believe, and it has a biological basis for discussion.
Maybe your kid likes to **** people of the same gender dude, so who knows, maybe these hypothetical classes would have really helped him/her out. And anyways, like I said, I'm not advocating for an "acceptance" class, I'm advocating for education on human sexuality which would clear up misconceptions regarding gays and lesbians -- misconceptions that reinforce ignorance and a dislike for the LGBT community.
Originally posted by MythLord
Kill self, DMB.If nothing else, Freshest and Sel should be more interesting to debate on the topic than Generalissimo.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Why? Cause Freshest and Sel don't just spew communist propaganda and weird shit about how a human who fails to breed has failed his purpose to the collective or some shit? LMFAO
Exactly, lmao. Didn't he think inbreeding is technically better than homosexuality because at least that way you can have progeny?