The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by Dr McBeefington3,287 pages

Welcome to dorms.

so, i just got through watching capitalism: a love story. michael moore is a very biased individual i feel.

i hate dr.mcbeefington a little more though 🙁

Its not capitalism thats the problem, its the abuse of capitalism thats the issue. Capitalism is the only viable economic system (just take a look at the awesome Soviet economics perpetuated by that idiot Lenin and his brutal successor Stalin.)

i absolutely agree 😂

twas just a joke.

Originally posted by Autokrat
Its not capitalism thats the problem, its the abuse of capitalism thats the issue. Capitalism is the only viable economic system (just take a look at the awesome Soviet economics perpetuated by that idiot Lenin and his brutal successor Stalin.)

QFT

Has:
to take the ACT on Saturday
a science competition the following Saturday
Quiz Bowl and a concert the weekend after that (And possibly a second concert? Bureaucracy @ school is turrible
Practice for AP tests the next weekend (we're into may at this point)
the AP US History test May 7, Lang/Comp May 12, and MicroEcon May 13

I won't be here for a while. Maybe April 18th? If not, see you all in May!

Science competition? Quiz Bowl? Where's the beer pong? Where's the flip cup? WHERE IS THE SOCIAL LIFE AND INTERACTION WITH THE OPPOSITE SEX?

Red Nemesis
Has:
to take the ACT on Saturday
a science competition the following Saturday
Quiz Bowl and a concert the weekend after that (And possibly a second concert? Bureaucracy @ school is turrible
Practice for AP tests the next weekend (we're into may at this point)
the AP US History test May 7, Lang/Comp May 12, and MicroEcon May 13

I won't be here for a while. Maybe April 18th? If not, see you all in May!

You will enjoy the ACT greatly.

Especially if you've already taken the SAT.

Ah, the joys of standardized testing.

Man I sucked so bad in HS... I graduated with a 2.8... barely. I hated HS. It was a boring waste of time. I completely failed by Freshman and Sophomore years of HS.

And then the freshman running start classes at college weren't any better.

Although I had fun being one of three people to pass Economics 101 with a 3.9 or higher.

You were one of only 3 people that passed Eco 101? What the hell kind of school was this?

doesnt sound that uncommon to me... at my high school(s) the failure rate in most classes was around 60% i passed econ with a c+ 😂

i go to school in California though.... so.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
You were one of only 3 people that passed Eco 101? What the hell kind of school was this?

Oh other people passed (with poor GPAs), but Economics 101 had the highest failrate on campus because its so f*cking hard.

Almost every fundamental principle (both Macro and Micro) is crammed into an eleven week section and the lead Econ professor is a merciless hag with a brutal two hundred question final.

I remember she told me that I was lucky since I can retain information really well. I never studied worth shit for that class, but I all I had to do was listen to prof say something once and I remembered it. Plus I understood the material really well.

A pity I forgot most of it since I never took another Econ class.

Out of curiosity does anyone Autokrat know of any opposing views to Determinism (specifically that events can occur randomly, rather than always causally, as illogical as that may sound)?

Originally posted by Lavos
Out of curiosity does anyone Autokrat know of any opposing views to Determinism (specifically that events can occur randomly, rather than always causally, as illogical as that may sound)?

Usually arguments like those tend to draw on recent development in physics, especially those dealing with quantum mechanics. The most basic argument is that Determinsim's foundation rests in Newtonian physics, ergo it is no longer an accurate stance.

My grades have been ups and downs since the beginning of forever. I almost didn't pass 7th grade because I was ****ing around, then I aced everything 8th grade. First half of high school I stopped caring, second half I carried a 4.0+ GPA per semester and ended up with a 3.4 GPA overall.

College has not been nice to me as it is much harder to simply coast along. I currently have a 2.5gpa overall, which is dreadful and I'm not quite sure how they've let me keep my scholarship... but they have and I don't mind at all.

are you a full time student rex? (meaning do you take a full load?)

also, do you go to uc san diego?

Out of curiosity does anyone Autokrat know of any opposing views to Determinism (specifically that events can occur randomly, rather than always causally, as illogical as that may sound)?

From what I can recall from the awesome philosophy class I took there are three arguments against Determinism and the opposing view is called Compatibilism. The views are firstly, as Auto mentioned that of quantum indeterminancy, which is that things on a quantum level can often be utterly random. Secondly, that we feel that we make free choices. Which is an awful argument. And thirdly, that if it were true we wold have no free will and that would suck. Which is possibly the very worst argument evar.

As you can see there really isn't alot going against it.

Hmm, so let's say, in the case of parallel timelines, could quantum indeterminancy be used as a justification for variations between the different timelines? Like say, if events don't necessarily occur in a causal manner but sometimes in a random manner, than if events were to start from point zero and be repeated in every single parallel timeline, then given the random nature of it they don't necessarily have to proceed into the same set of events in each timeline, accounting for variations?

Yay for the 3.8! (since we are bringing it up. : )


Hmm, so let's say, in the case of parallel timelines, could quantum indeterminancy be used as a justification for variations between the different timelines? Like say, if events don't necessarily occur in a causal manner but sometimes in a random manner, than if events were to start from point zero and be repeated in every single parallel timeline, then given the random nature of it they don't necessarily have to proceed into the same set of events in each timeline, accounting for variations?

Well initually I passed off the argument of quantum indeterminancy as another pretty weak argument against determinism. My thoughts were that a few atoms, protons etc acting in random ways don't really affect whether I make myself a cup of tea in the morning. But then I started thinking about it and yeah, I think you could be right with that. If a few million years ago a particule had done something completely different from how it happened in our time-frame, it could therorectically change the course of history so that tea was never even invented. Now thats a grossly oversimplified example and probably doesn't make as much sense as it did in my head, but yeah I could see that very well being a basis for variations in reality.

Of course this only works if things are truely random at a quantum level. I'm not to sure about that, I think we just don't know enough about the universe to make sense of them yet. I mean, look at the Quantum Zeno effect (or as Cracked put it much more succinctly halfway down the page). I mean wtf, right? Particules are changed just by looking at them? Thats just crazy. Clearly we just don't know what the hell we're dealing with here.

Edit: Being British I have no idea what a 3.8 is, but yay for it anyway.