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I found the presentation of both characters to be phenomenal. Crowley's entertaining, well-acted and certainly stands out in the upper echelons of the host of Hell (the hellhound card helps)
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but the sense of creeping evil Lucifer
Pellegrino was a great actor and added some subdued, "chill" charisma to Lucifer, but Lucifer wasn't all that intimidating to me. As happens so often when you introduce the ultimate evil, they fail to live up to the hype surrounding them. That was the problem with Star Wars and the Emperor, I think; we needed to see a lot of Palpatine, but only small doses of Darth Sidious for the character to remain effective. Lucifer failed to live up to the hype; Azazel, Alastair, and others were much creepier and more intimidating.
Lucifer was at his scariest when he wasn't seen. As an example, his "ascent" in "Lucifer Rising" was the most compelling, frightening moment. But he's not even seen.
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and Alastair exuded was chilling in a manner not found in any other character in the series.
Lucifer had his moments and Pellegrino is a superb actor, but Lucifer is such a religious and mythological icon that it's hard to really pin him down effectively. Alastair, Azazel, Crowley, and Zachariah are much better villains.
I present to you the two stupidest posters on this forum...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=543554&pagenumber=1
Originally posted by ares834
I present to you the two stupidest posters on this forum...http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=543554&pagenumber=1
Is one of them me? 🙁
edit: Dadudeman and RJ? Yeah, they're pretty dumb.
Originally posted by ares834
The two arguing for the wizards.
Some people really need to grasp the underlying concept of magic, before presuming that some comic book heroes, no matter how powerful, would be able to deal with it. While usual superheroes just bend the laws of physics, magic does twist and break them, which is even present in the HP universe (altering space and time).
There is a reason why characters like Doctor Strange (Marvel Universe) and Mordru (DC Universe) are considered to be among the most powerful entities in their respective realms.
Originally posted by Borbarad
Some people really need to grasp the underlying concept of magic, before presuming that some comic book heroes, no matter how powerful, would be able to deal with it. While usual superheroes just bend the laws of physics, magic does twist and break them, which is even present in the HP universe (altering space and time).There is a reason why characters like Doctor Strange (Marvel Universe) and Mordru (DC Universe) are considered to be among the most powerful entities in their respective realms.
When Superman carelessly violates causality and special relativity, how does that fall under "bending" as opposed to "breaking?"
Superheros and Supervillains break the laws of physics all the time. Dr Strange and Mordru just do it in a flashier manner.
Yeah. Moving fast enough to alter time > any harry potter magic in a straight up fight. Which is the point. Turning invisible, making yourself only-half solid, and all that coolkid magical shit they do in the Harry Potter universe, still requires you to actively cast the spell. Superman moves several thousands of times faster than any winzard can think. That is something that Harry Potter fanboys fail to understand.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Yeah. Moving fast enough to alter time > any harry potter magic in a straight up fight. Which is the point. Turning invisible, making yourself only-half solid, and all that coolkid magical shit they do in the Harry Potter universe, still requires you to actively cast the spell. Superman moves several thousands of times faster than any winzard can think. That is something that Harry Potter fanboys fail to understand.
Excuse me.
Most "spellcasting" you mentioned can be done nonverbally with a mere thought by more experienced Wizards, demonstrated by Snape multiple times. So can Superman also think faster than regular human beings?
And in the specific thread, team Superman would be in need to overcome Hogwarts protective spells, which are pretty much impenetrable, unless you happen to be the Headmaster of the school. They wouldn't even be able to move close to it, without feeling the urge to leave, because of thinking they have more important stuff to do elsewhere.
Originally posted by Borbarad
[B] So can Superman also think faster than regular human beings?
Dur? He would kind of have to to fight and move at the speeds that he does, otherwise he'd be crashing into shit.
That aside, the comics themselves have stated this. All of the "speedster" characters have a faster thought process then regular humans.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Dur? He would kind of have to to fight and move at the speeds that he does.
No. He wouldn't, because time would pass far slower for him, if he moves at higher speeds.
That aside, the comics themselves have stated this. All of the "speedster" characters have a faster thought process then regular humans. [/B]
Just when they use their "speedster" abilities or in general?