The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

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Originally posted by Borbarad
There is a reason why characters like Doctor Strange (Marvel Universe) and Mordru (DC Universe) are considered to be among the most powerful entities in their respective realms.

However, Mordru and Strange both act at a level may times higher than any from Harry Potter.

Originally posted by Borbarad
Most "spellcasting" you mentioned can be done nonverbally with a mere thought by more experienced Wizards, demonstrated by Snape multiple times. So can Superman also think faster than regular human beings?

Superman catches bullets... So it would seem that he does.

I'm still very much against the fights between characters from entirely different universes.

Don't be a party pooper.

Originally posted by Borbarad
Excuse me.
Lol every time you say this all I can think of is Sigourney Weaver in Holes.

Originally posted by Borbarad
Most "spellcasting" you mentioned can be done nonverbally with a mere thought by more experienced Wizards, demonstrated by Snape multiple times. So can Superman also think faster than regular human beings?

And in the specific thread, team Superman would be in need to overcome Hogwarts protective spells, which are pretty much impenetrable, unless you happen to be the Headmaster of the school. They wouldn't even be able to move close to it, without feeling the urge to leave, because of thinking they have more important stuff to do elsewhere.

It may be second-hand information, but I once heard that somewhere in DC canon, it's stated that Superman's "other" weakness, besides Kryptonite, is magic. I don't know how, but apparently it is.

Still though, on a technical level, can't Superman move faster that Harry Potter wizards can think/raise their wands and aim?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Do said enchantments exist inside the movie?

They are utilized in DH part 1 by Harry and Hermione to protect their campsites. They are also mentioned in GoF (Quidditch World Cup) and PoA / HPB (Hogwarts), if I recall correctly.

Originally posted by ares834
However, Mordru and Strange both act at a level may times higher than any from Harry Potter.

I was speaking about concept not high end showings.


Superman catches bullets... So it would seem that he does.

No. Because to catch bullets, he again has to move rather fast before, which would again lead to time slowing down for him, relative to anything happening outside of his body (e.g. the flight of the bullets).

Superman isn't 'weak' to magic, he just has no resistence to it like he does to everything else. Against magic he is essentially a normal human (though he still manages to take it on the chin better than he has any right to due to idiot writers).


They are utilized in DH part 1 by Harry and Hermione to protect their campsites. They are also mentioned in GoF (Quidditch World Cup) and PoA / HPB (Hogwarts), if I recall correctly.

So no then? Good. The less ammunition RJ has the better.

No. Because to catch bullets, he again has to move rather fast before, which would again lead to time slowing down for him, relative to anything happening outside of his body (e.g. the flight of the bullets).

But he'd still need to react to the bullets right?

Originally posted by Borbarad
No. Because to catch bullets, he again has to move rather fast before, which would again lead to time slowing down for him, relative to anything happening outside of his body (e.g. the flight of the bullets).

However, he wasn't initally moving at all. The guy shoots at Lois from about 5 feet away and only after he shoots does Clark jump into action catching the bullet. That is well beyond the reaction time of a human.

Originally posted by Nephthys
So no then? Good. The less ammunition RJ has the better.

Well. We see Flitwick conjuring them up. We see Death Eaters falling to fly into the castle, being stopped by an invisible shield. And the entire plot of HPB is based on them. Hence Dumbledore asking Draco how he managed to get the Death Eaters into the school (which excludes the possibility that somebody could simply walk in). So the protections are present in the movies.


But he'd still need to react to the bullets right?

The question was, if he was capable of thinking faster than humans. Mere movement beyond speed humans are capable of doesn't necessarily mean he does.


However, he wasn't initally moving at all. The guy shoots at Lois from about 5 feet away and only after he shoots does Clark jump into action catching the bullet. That is well beyond the reaction time of a human.

Did Clark expect this to happen?

Well. We see Flitwick conjuring them up.

Hmmm. But we don't actually know what he's conjuring, do we? All we see is that weaksauce barrier thing that Superman will rip through like tissue paper.

We see Death Eaters falling to fly into the castle, being stopped by an invisible shield.

Superman is a little above flying smoke balls. Theres nothing to prove that it will even inconvenience him.

And the entire plot of HPB is based on them. Hence Dumbledore asking Draco how he managed to get the Death Eaters into the school (which excludes the possibility that somebody could simply walk in). So the protections are present in the movies.

The barrie is present. Nothing else. There are no muggle repelling charms to my knowledge.


The question was, if he was capable of thinking faster than humans. Mere movement beyond speed humans are capable of doesn't necessarily mean he does.

Reacting to something isn't just about movement. It requires speed of thought and reflexes. Superman reacts to bullets in a way no human can, therefore he can react faster than any human and blitz them immediately.

Supes really does think faster than a human. I used to have a scan for the Goku versus Superman thread (God, kill it with fire) where he's literally solving complex scientific equations in the time it takes for most people to realize they have an itch.

While some upper tier magic users in HP's realm would be a force to be reckoned with, if Supes came into the arena considering them an imminent threat, I don't see him losing. The guy's showings are grossly off the charts, everything from racing to the sun and back before Lois can make it from one room to another, to pushing a planet-sized object back without somehow exerting enough force to rip it in two, etc. Without PIS, he's as bad as Batman with prep.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Supes really does think faster than a human. I used to have a scan for the Goku versus Superman thread (God, kill it with fire) where he's literally solving complex scientific equations in the time it takes for most people to realize they have an itch.

While some upper tier magic users in HP's realm would be a force to be reckoned with, if Supes came into the arena considering them an imminent threat, I don't see him losing. The guy's showings are grossly off the charts, everything from racing to the sun and back before Lois can make it from one room to another, to pushing a planet-sized object back without somehow exerting enough force to rip it in two, etc. Without PIS, he's as bad as Batman with prep.

Erm.
We were talking in the movie versus forum and since Neph is trying to exclude everything not happening in the movies for the Potter side, I have to assume that the same goes for the opposite team, including Superman. That limits his showings a little bit, doesn't it?

Indeed.

A good thing too. Otherwise he could literally win with a sneeze.

Originally posted by Borbarad
Erm.
We were talking in the movie versus forum and since Neph is trying to exclude everything not happening in the movies for the Potter side, I have to assume that the same goes for the opposite team, including Superman. That limits his showings a little bit, doesn't it?

It does.

He can still fly so fast is reverses time and carry a continent of kyrptonite into space. Thats all he needs.

He can totally chuck his emblem at a wizard, wtf.

Oh, fvck yeah. Now we're talking.

grocery stores are confusing. I thought i had a 2 dollar turkey. i was soooo pumped. so much food for so little money. but it was 2 bucks a pound. i put it back.

You actually believed you could buy a turkey for 2 dollar?

Hey TJ, I got some swamp land in Arizona for you to buy.