The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by Igon Flombaigne3,287 pages

If you were to simplify it entirely into a simple tablet computer, and ignore the myriad of innovative functions it performs in conjunction with the tv screen, perhaps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhEuZyY6_aU

Omg.....

Originally posted by Igon Flombaigne
If you were to simplify it entirely into a simple tablet computer, and ignore the myriad of innovative functions it performs in conjunction with the tv screen, perhaps.

YOu mean like the way how holding it up causes you to zoom in on the TV a little while obscuring a good portion of the screen? Yeah, thats pretty cool I guess. Its innovative, if pretty much pants on head retarded.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhEuZyY6_aU

Omg.....

My pants.... THEY ARE SOILED!

Originally posted by Lucius
So I just picked up Christina Perri's album and my god that woman has a voice.
I love Jar of Hearts.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I love Jar of Hearts.

I've noticed her album's gotten some flak. Personally I like most of the songs on it, although I guess it does have a recurring theme of bad relationships.

And yes, Jar of Hearts is absolutely beautiful.

Someone described her as a "depressing Colbie Caillat." Which is fine. We've got a yin and yang. A "Bubbly" and a "Sad Song".

Originally posted by Nephthys
YOu mean like the way how holding it up causes you to zoom in on the TV a little while obscuring a good portion of the screen? Yeah, thats pretty cool I guess. Its innovative, if pretty much pants on head retarded.

My pants.... THEY ARE SOILED!

I was thinking more the stuff at 1:08, 1:27, 1:57, 2:08. Even the drawing function is something anybody who's played Okami could see would have numerous gameplay applications. It's combining the functions of a second, touch screen, with a primary TV screen, and with that of motion control gaming. It's basically a combination of the Nintendo DS and Nintendo Wii, the two most innovative and differentiated gaming platforms ever made.

I was thinking more the stuff at 1:08

Thats what I was as well.

1:27,

Golf games suck. And I can't think of another use for that feature. Next!

1:57

Again, the sides get in the way too much fo it to be useful imo. I can see that really getting screwing you oer and getting you killed when playing an FPS.

2:08.

Again I'm struggling to think of ways to utilise that tech.

Even the drawing function is something anybody who's played Okami could see would have numerous gameplay applications.

So numerous = one.

Huh.

It's combining the functions of a second, touch screen, with a primary TV screen, and with that of motion control gaming. It's basically a combination of the Nintendo DS and Nintendo Wii, the two most innovative and differentiated gaming platforms ever made.

The Wii sucked though. Dunno about the DS, but some of the gimmicks seemed pretty lame so it probably sucked too.

I am the Party Pooper. He is me.

YouTube video

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/06/the-old-republic-interview.ars

Well, that's interesting. Not very Star Wars like, but interesting.

So what happens if I'm unfailingly evil as a Jedi? Do the Sith try to recruit me? "No, and the reason is... this is a hard one to look at because we made them entire cultures," Erickson told Ars. "The Sith we see [in the movies], even Vader, are not actually Sith, they are harkening back to a tradition from years ago—they are fallen Jedi. The Sith in our game are actually Sith; they are from a different empire that was almost wiped out of existence by the Jedi."

Bullshit. 😐

Edit: Not counting by the fact that the Sith exist as an idea and as a Force Cult that teaches a way of utilising the Force, but even going by their own continuity thats wrong. Theres a clear line of succession all the way to the movies: Sith Emperor - Revan - Bane - Rule of Two - Sidious - Maul/Tyrannus/Vader.

"I always take it back to the World War 2 analogy: if you were a very evil British soldier in World War 2, you wouldn't join the Nazis; you were torturing them in the basement," Erickson explained. "You're a bad man, but that doesn't mean you're going to leave your country. You're going to do what you're trying to do in the worst possible way."

The thing is, this goes the other way as well. "This is what's really hard for people to wrap their heads around sometimes. A light-side Sith is going to try to make his horrible screwed-up country better," Erickson said. "A Sith is given, by his society, unlimited power to do whatever he wants unless a stronger Sith can stop him. So a light-side Sith warrior can walk out there and protect the Imperial people, because he thinks the other side is crazy."

Better.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Bullshit. 😐

Edit: Not counting by the fact that the Sith exist as an idea and as a Force Cult that teaches a way of utilising the Force, but even going by their own continuity thats wrong. Theres a clear line of succession all the way to the movies: Sith Emperor - Revan - Bane - Rule of Two - Sidious - Maul/Tyrannus/Vader.

And you see that "clear line" of succession where exactly? The Sith Emperor was probably a pawn in the original Sith Empire (he wasn't one of the named Sith Lords at least). Revan plundered some of the Sith secret and maybe had some of the Sith Emperor's knowledge. Than he gave Bane a fraction of what he himself had.

So, technically, those people are just harkening back on a tradition that they have rather much knowledge about, but they aren't living in the tradition itself. We've never seen real Sith magic been used by Vader, Dooku or Maul. Sidious probably used it, but clearly not to the extend that the Ancient Sith have done it.

Better.

That, rather frankly, doesn't make sense. The Sith are inherently evil in their methods, even if their intentions might be occassionally be seen as "good" (e.g. Dooku's motivation to stop corruption in the senate). That doesn't turn them into "good guys".

The Sith Emperor was probably a pawn in the original Sith Empire (he wasn't one of the named Sith Lords at least).

Speculation. Where are you getting this? Everything so far in The Old Republic has underlined that these are the True Sith.

Revan plundered some of the Sith secret and maybe had some of the Sith Emperor's knowledge.

If by 'some' you mean everything on Korriban and Malachor, then yeah. Thats a hell of alot more than other recognised Sith (Ulic Qel'Droma). And yeah, 'maybe'. You don't know shit about how much Revan was taught by the Emperor. We do know that when he returned to the Republic, he did so as Darth Revan, Dark Lord of the Sith.

Than he gave Bane a fraction of what he himself had.

Again, where the fvck are you getting this? What makes you think that he only gave him a fraction of what he knew?

That, rather frankly, doesn't make sense. The Sith are inherently evil in their methods, even if their intentions might be occassionally be seen as "good" (e.g. Dooku's motivation to stop corruption in the senate). That doesn't turn them into "good guys".

The Sith are a society. Not all of the people can be 'evil'. Darth Thanaton for instance was a pretty cool dude. He had an alien buddy that he was friends with and everything ( a slave he frees in the story). Unfortunately he had to kill said alien buddy when he heard something he shouldn't of, and he did so out of loyalty to the Empire and with a deep sense of regret, apologising as he did it.

So of course the Sith can't be 'good guys', but that doesn't automatically make them evil or douchebags.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Bullshit. 😐

Edit: Not counting by the fact that the Sith exist as an idea and as a Force Cult that teaches a way of utilising the Force, but even going by their own continuity thats wrong. Theres a clear line of succession all the way to the movies: Sith Emperor - Revan - Bane - Rule of Two - Sidious - Maul/Tyrannus/Vader.

I do see where he is coming from though. Sure the movie Sith are well Sith, but they aren't part of these ancient Sith or "True" Sith if you will. The "True" Sith are the continuation of the Jedi Exiles while Bane and Sidious are from the "New" Sith. Basically the continuation of Darth Ruin and not the Jedi Exiles. Sure they may have plundered knowledge from the "True" Sith, but they weren't taught what they know by a living breathing Sith Lord.

Revan's Holocron was specifically made to only reveal itself to the worthy, of which Bane was deemed. Revan then spent the Holocron teaching him not just techniques but Sith philosophy. He's a legit Sith. 😬

Originally posted by Nephthys
Revan's Holocron was specifically made to only reveal itself to the worthy, of which Bane was deemed. Revan then spent the Holocron teaching him not just techniques but Sith philosophy. He's a legit Sith. 😬

I'm not sayin Bane isn't a "legit" Sith. Of course he is. However, he isn't a "True" Sith as in one of the members of the ancient Sith Culture.

That isn't what they're saying though. They're saying that they aren't real Sith, just fallen Jedi. As I've shown, thats not true (and not all of them were fallen jedi anyway).

BTW, what was the thread where we were talking about how Makashi can't match Djem So head on? Becuase in the Good Counts own words 'His own elegant Makashi simply did not generate the kinetic power to meet Djem So head-to-head. Especially not while also defending against a second attacker.' - ROTS novelisation.

That's still one of the most retarded lines ever written in a Star Wars book. Makashi should be the most effective at kinetic power because it incorporates more stabbing movements, which would be a great way to focus the energy in your arm into a very small spot. That's all you got, is the energy in your arm. A lightsaber contributes nothing because it has no mass.

But I digress... almost all the styles are incredibly stupid.

This is a stupid argument. Sith ideals change from time to time. The Sith Emperor WAS a with lord of the original empire. Yet he wanted to conquer the Republic through might. Revan somewhat believed in the Rule of Two and Bane followed his traditions 3000 years later. However during that time frame, the concept was to rule by numbers.

Originally posted by Lucius
That's still one of the most retarded lines ever written in a Star Wars book. Makashi should be the most effective at kinetic power because it incorporates more stabbing movements, which would be a great way to focus the energy in your arm into a very small spot. That's all you got, is the energy in your arm. A lightsaber contributes nothing because it has no mass.

But I digress... almost all the styles are incredibly stupid.

Count Dooku > You on this matter. He is the greatest master of the style currently in the mythos after all. 😛

This is a stupid argument. Sith ideals change from time to time. The Sith Emperor WAS a with lord of the original empire. Yet he wanted to conquer the Republic through might. Revan somewhat believed in the Rule of Two and Bane followed his traditions 3000 years later. However during that time frame, the concept was to rule by numbers.

Concepts of efficiency are not ideals. The Sith ideals of passion and darkness etc are a constant.