The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by Dr McBeefington3,287 pages

Concepts of efficiency are not ideals? How the force is shaped through the dark side is consistently similar? News to me.

I thought it was about time someone clued you in. You can thank me later.

My point stands.

Not really. The organisation of the Sith doesn't have much to do with their core beliefs. I guess you could argue that Bane's 'power should be focused in two rather than spread out' has something to do with them, not not much, and thats a stretch.

Their belief in the power of using your passion and rage has always been with them. Sith Code yo.

I didn't know that Darth Ruin's and the New Sith Empire's views are consistent with sith ideology.

Which are those again? I've only barely heard about Ruin and are you talking about the TOR sith or Krayts? Because I would agree that Krayt is borderline sith at best.

Ruin and everyone until the BoD. Everything exists because they created it and so on.. Look up Odion and Daiman, who follow Ruin's philosophy closely.

From what I can see Ruin has no line of succession to the Sith. It seems like he just declared himself Sith and started wrecking shit. Coupled with him not following Sith teachings and I'd say he's not a sith at all.

And surely the point in POD was that the Sith there had fallen from the right path and had stopped to be true Sith, which was why Bane purged them.

Edit: Wait, BOD? Never heard of that. mmm

He created the new sith empire by combining the surviving clans. Bod is brotherhood of darkness.

Ah, then my point stands. the brotherhood weren't really Sith strictly, which is why Bane killed them off and stuff.

I mean they actually believed in teamwork and in not backstabbing each other. Pfft, losers. 🙄

Sure but the other "New" Sith of the New Sith Wars were. Ruin, for example, was killed by his followers. And Odion and Daiman are actively at war against each other and numerous other Sith Lords.

Sorry DE but you're wrong. Claiming those who don't follow a particular idea of the sith because the doth are supposed to follow some ideal you theorized is a tautology I believe, I could be completely wrong on the terminology. My point stands though.

Originally posted by Lucius
That's still one of the most retarded lines ever written in a Star Wars book. Makashi should be the most effective at kinetic power because it incorporates more stabbing movements, which would be a great way to focus the energy in your arm into a very small spot. That's all you got, is the energy in your arm. A lightsaber contributes nothing because it has no mass.

But I digress... almost all the styles are incredibly stupid.

Well it's the motion of your body [and the lightsaber hilt] as well as its mass that would determine its kinetic energy; a swinging movement generates far more motion from the core of your body than a stabbing movement and would consequently possess a far greater level of kinetic energy.

...Unless I'm missing something very fundamental here.

Originally posted by Igon Flombaigne
Well it's the motion of your body [and the lightsaber hilt] as well as its mass that would determine its kinetic energy; a swinging movement generates far more motion from the core of your body than a stabbing movement and would consequently possess a far greater level of kinetic energy.

...Unless I'm missing something very fundamental here.

It is easier to hit with more force using a swinging motion, but in this case that would only be good for leverage, since your weapon has no mass beyond the hilt and whatever kinetic energy you are putting into the swing is going to get spread across the lightsaber blade (which doesn't really need it.)

When fighting with actual swords, it is a combination of the motion of the arm and the mass and momentum of the blade. Lots of swords are built around that very purpose (see the messier or "big knife,"😉 since an actual sword can't just cut through anything, the mass of a blade was important (mainly for dealing with armor.) However, a lightsaber can cut through just about anything. There is no reason for wide heavy swings with a lightsaber because you can just slap someone and call it good.

Makashi is all about leverage, balance, and economy of movement, which are really the only things that would actually matter in a lightsaber fight. Fighting with lightsabers is almost like Judo with swords.

I agree. Unlike other forms of fighting you don't need power or anything to hurt your opponent. All it takes it a light touch to take off your arm. ;o)

To be honest I don't entirely get it. Just every formula involving kinetic energy involves something being multiplied by m. Which I guess would be limited to the hilt and some fraction of the person's body mass.

If I recall correctly Lightsaber blades aren't completely wieghtless. Even energy (Isn't is Plasma?) wieghs something, just not very much.

Also Trinity is fvcking awesome. Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman as Gods? Bad. Motherfvcking. Ass.

Originally posted by Nephthys
If I recall correctly Lightsaber blades aren't completely wieghtless. Even
energy (Isn't is Plasma?) wieghs something, just not very much.

You may be thinking of mass-energy equivalence, which isn't the same as energy having mass. Energy doesn't "weigh" anything.

Also, plasma isn't energy per say, it's ionized matter. The sun, for example, is plasma. Its matter at a very high energy state.

Do you guys realize you can PLAY THE GOOGLE GUITAR?! Holy shit!

The newest South Park episode was surprisingly sad.