Originally posted by Metalmanx
Uh...am I the only one that noticed Iceman AND Magneto are on the X-men team?How are the Avengers going to win?
Quasar will take Mags. Thor will take Iceman. Even if Iceman is back at his Pre-HOM power set, he'd give Thor some trouble but Thor would pull it out in the end.
Quasar has dealt with far worse than Mags.
Then again, if Jean is using her Phoenix powers to her potential, she'd probably be a far greater threat than Wanda was.
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Quasar will take Mags. Thor will take Iceman. Even if Iceman is back at his Pre-HOM power set, he'd give Thor some trouble but Thor would pull it out in the end.Quasar has dealt with far worse than Mags.
Then again, if Jean is using her Phoenix powers to her potential, she'd probably be a far greater threat than Wanda was.
Tell me more about Quasar. He has to be something incredible in order to take out Magneto.
And I think Iceman doesn't necessarily have to fight Thor. I mean, he could take out a vast majority of the Avengers by himself before Thor takes him out.
And then, of course, there's Jean and Psylocke. Telepathy won't take the Avengers down? What protection do they have?
I didn't forget Colossus either. I know that there are Avengers that will keep him busy, but he could definitely do some damage to the A-Team first before being kept busy.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Tell me more about Quasar. He has to be something incredible in order to take out Magneto.And I think Iceman doesn't necessarily have to fight Thor. I mean, he could take out a vast majority of the Avengers by himself before Thor takes him out.
And then, of course, there's Jean and Psylocke. Telepathy won't take the Avengers down? What protection do they have?
I didn't forget Colossus either. I know that there are Avengers that will keep him busy, but he could definitely do some damage to the A-Team first before being kept busy.
Here ya go Metalmanx. 😉
Powers and abilities
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The Quantum Bands
Quasar's powers are derived from the pair of quantum bands fused to his wrists (or more specifically, from the seven gems on each of the bands). They are linked to their wearer's nervous system and grant tremendous powers of energy manipulation.
Foremost amongst these powers is the ability to tap into a limitless energy source called the quantum zone. Quasar can project quantum energy in the form of devastating beams of force or heat, but more commonly employs them to fashion incredibly durable constructs of solid energy, such as containment spheres or pincers. He protects himself with a personal force field of quantum energy.
The quantum bands can also exert control over many other types of energy that are part of the electromagnetic spectrum. For example, Quasar once tapped into a sun and caused it to emit an enormous solar flare. He can also absorb and redirect the cosmic energy wielded by such powerful beings as the Silver Surfer, Jack of Hearts, Adam Warlock, Thanos, Phoenix, and the Watchers, siphoning their power and using it to augment his quantum energy. Forms of energy the quantum bands cannot control include magic and darkforce.
Although he cannot overtly affect psionic energy, Quasar has programmed his bands to render him impervious to psionic mental control. Even Moondragon and the Overmind proved unable to overcome this defense. He does not appear to be protected from magical forms of compulsion.
Quasar can create apertures into and out of the quantum zone, thus allowing passage through its infinite, featureless expanse. He mainly uses this ability to traverse interstellar distances in a manner similar to hyperspace travel. The effect is essentially a form of teleportation, which Quasar refers to as a quantum jump. A quantum jump has a destructive side effect on the local environment, violently upheaving gravity and tearing holes in the atmosphere (on Earth, it would damage the ozone layer), so Quasar initially refrained from using it except when in space or in dire circumstances. However, he eventually realized that he could contain this side effect by first surrounding himself with a barrier of solid energy. Quasar can also shunt other matter into the quantum zone provided that he's in physical contact with it.
The quantum bands enable their wearer to fly by manipulating gravitons. The maximum flight speed he can attain is unknown, but he made a trip from Earth to Uranus in approximately four years flying non-stop (this was before he learned how to quantum jump). That would require a constant speed of roughly 50,000 miles per hour. This doesn't take into account the velocity he can achieve in a short burst of acceleration.
The quantum band gems seem to be able to analyze and process information as if they were extremely advanced computers. This allows Quasar to navigate the quantum zone and the depths of space. The gems are able to detect, analyze, and track energy emissions across vast distances. They can also "program" his quantum energy to register and react to certain preset conditions. For instance, at one time Quasar had the Earth surrounded with an invisible laticework of energy that was designed to act as a global alert system against potential extraterrestrial threats. The energy field could detect any surges of exotic energy emanating from the planet's surface as well as if any object larger than a micrometeorite passed through it; in either case, the field would react by transmitting an alert signal to the quantum bands.
Quasar has a direct link to Epoch through his bands, which gives him ready access to her nascent omniscience.
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Other Powers
While he possessed the power of the Star Brand, Quasar posesssed flight, superhuman strength & resilience, and the ability and to regenerate his entire body from minute remains, and did not need to eat, drink, or breathe. Virtually all of the energy derived from having possessed the Star Brand was depleted not long after he gave it away, as demonstrated when Quasar very nearly perished as the invulnerability provided by the Brand faded away while he was battling in space. The Living Tribunal later stated that Quasar's body retains only an insignificant trace amount of energy.
Quasar also briefly possessed the same powers of cosmic awareness that Eon granted Mar-Vell. By simply concentrating for a moment, he could gain complete knowledge about virtually anything in the universe. It's unclear why Eon didn't bestow cosmic awareness on Quasar permanently, but being nigh-omniscient himself, he likely determined that it would have been detrimental to Quasar's psyche (as it was to that of Genis-Vell). The fact that he received the awareness while his mind was inhabiting an energy construct, and he did not demonstrate it upon returning to his body, may also have something to do with it.
Don't go by their bio's. Go by feats.
Go here for Quasar's:
Originally posted by batdude123
Here ya go Metalmanx. 😉Powers and abilities
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The Quantum Bands
Quasar's powers are derived from the pair of quantum bands fused to his wrists (or more specifically, from the seven gems on each of the bands). They are linked to their wearer's nervous system and grant tremendous powers of energy manipulation.Foremost amongst these powers is the ability to tap into a limitless energy source called the quantum zone. Quasar can project quantum energy in the form of devastating beams of force or heat, but more commonly employs them to fashion incredibly durable constructs of solid energy, such as containment spheres or pincers. He protects himself with a personal force field of quantum energy.
The quantum bands can also exert control over many other types of energy that are part of the electromagnetic spectrum. For example, Quasar once tapped into a sun and caused it to emit an enormous solar flare. He can also absorb and redirect the cosmic energy wielded by such powerful beings as the Silver Surfer, Jack of Hearts, Adam Warlock, Thanos, Phoenix, and the Watchers, siphoning their power and using it to augment his quantum energy. Forms of energy the quantum bands cannot control include magic and darkforce.
Although he cannot overtly affect psionic energy, Quasar has programmed his bands to render him impervious to psionic mental control. Even Moondragon and the Overmind proved unable to overcome this defense. He does not appear to be protected from magical forms of compulsion.
Quasar can create apertures into and out of the quantum zone, thus allowing passage through its infinite, featureless expanse. He mainly uses this ability to traverse interstellar distances in a manner similar to hyperspace travel. The effect is essentially a form of teleportation, which Quasar refers to as a quantum jump. A quantum jump has a destructive side effect on the local environment, violently upheaving gravity and tearing holes in the atmosphere (on Earth, it would damage the ozone layer), so Quasar initially refrained from using it except when in space or in dire circumstances. However, he eventually realized that he could contain this side effect by first surrounding himself with a barrier of solid energy. Quasar can also shunt other matter into the quantum zone provided that he's in physical contact with it.
The quantum bands enable their wearer to fly by manipulating gravitons. The maximum flight speed he can attain is unknown, but he made a trip from Earth to Uranus in approximately four years flying non-stop (this was before he learned how to quantum jump). That would require a constant speed of roughly 50,000 miles per hour. This doesn't take into account the velocity he can achieve in a short burst of acceleration.
The quantum band gems seem to be able to analyze and process information as if they were extremely advanced computers. This allows Quasar to navigate the quantum zone and the depths of space. The gems are able to detect, analyze, and track energy emissions across vast distances. They can also "program" his quantum energy to register and react to certain preset conditions. For instance, at one time Quasar had the Earth surrounded with an invisible laticework of energy that was designed to act as a global alert system against potential extraterrestrial threats. The energy field could detect any surges of exotic energy emanating from the planet's surface as well as if any object larger than a micrometeorite passed through it; in either case, the field would react by transmitting an alert signal to the quantum bands.
Quasar has a direct link to Epoch through his bands, which gives him ready access to her nascent omniscience.
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Other Powers
While he possessed the power of the Star Brand, Quasar posesssed flight, superhuman strength & resilience, and the ability and to regenerate his entire body from minute remains, and did not need to eat, drink, or breathe. Virtually all of the energy derived from having possessed the Star Brand was depleted not long after he gave it away, as demonstrated when Quasar very nearly perished as the invulnerability provided by the Brand faded away while he was battling in space. The Living Tribunal later stated that Quasar's body retains only an insignificant trace amount of energy.Quasar also briefly possessed the same powers of cosmic awareness that Eon granted Mar-Vell. By simply concentrating for a moment, he could gain complete knowledge about virtually anything in the universe. It's unclear why Eon didn't bestow cosmic awareness on Quasar permanently, but being nigh-omniscient himself, he likely determined that it would have been detrimental to Quasar's psyche (as it was to that of Genis-Vell). The fact that he received the awareness while his mind was inhabiting an energy construct, and he did not demonstrate it upon returning to his body, may also have something to do with it.
From what I read here, I just have one question. How does Quasar ever get defeated? No, seriously. It appears that he has just like...two weaknesses--Magic and Darkforce. Other than that, how is he ever beaten? He can absorb the power of Silver Surfer, Thanos, and Pheonix?! I mean, psionics can't even stop him. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see how Quasar isn't one of the most powerful beings in the Marvel Universe. Even greater than Pheonix it seems.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
From what I read here, I just have one question. How does Quasar ever get defeated? No, seriously. It appears that he has just like...two weaknesses--Magic and Darkforce. Other than that, how is he ever beaten? He can absorb the power of Silver Surfer, Thanos, and Pheonix?! I mean, psionics can't even stop him. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see how Quasar isn't one of the most powerful beings in the Marvel Universe. Even greater than Pheonix it seems.
The power of jobbing is a mighty beast! 😉
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Don't forget that Avengers have Wanda, "No more Cosmic Bird Avatar" or "I am now the Phoenix"
Dont get me started on the Scarlet Witch EC. 😉
Youre overrating her powers. She could not just say no more cosmic avatar. Jean is not a host for the Phoenix, she is the Phoenix in human form. The Phoenix Force spawns reality which Wanda manipulates. Phoenix is far beyond the Scarlet Wich who herself claimed warping the Earth would be a taxing task to perform, therefore giving us a guidline to her capacity. Wanda manipulates probabilities/reality however she has limits, she cannot materialise any probability imaginable.
Before you go talking about the chaos wave and its potentially multiversal effects please remember that it was something Wanda set off. Not something she generated and maintained, but something her actions (the warping of Earth 616) sparked off.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I don't believe that, that has ever been officially stated that the Phoenix is beyond Omega. As far as I know the first time the term Omega Plus was used to describe a mutant was in Gabriel Summers case.
As far as I know the Phoenix entity itself is above life, however with a host it seems severly weaker.
That point about the avatar is certainly true. Phoenix in human form does have limitations which are inherent to a physical form however Jean for example could swap between that and her energy form at will thereby negating that point. Phoenix is the life force of creation made flesh it is without a doubt beyond omega level and also Vulcan who himself is above that classification.