x-men vs avengers

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Being Omega or not has nothing to do with it, Jean Grey was once mortal, so it is possible to effect her. She's not so much tampering with cosmic power it's more earth history.

Youre not accounting for the retcon. Jean Grey is the Phoenix made flesh. The Phoenix took ker form in the previous multiverse as well. Wanda could not wipe out the Phoenix. Youre making assumptions about the scale of Wandas power. All we have to go on are Wandas comments referring to the warping of reality and Romas pertaining to a global alteration.

Okay maybe that was over exaggeratted, however Wanda was able to change the fate and history of the FF and the whole of 616 Earth. Now hypothetically speaking do you think it's possible that Wanda could change history by switching herself with past mortal Jean(Pre-manifistation). So basically Jeans parents give birth to Wanda, she marries Scott, fights with Emma and is destined to manifest the Phoenix Force?

Btw when I say mortal Pre-manifistation Jean I mean the one who wasn't aware that she is the Phoenix.

Hmm..chaos wave? When does the Handbook come out?

...so is Emma Frost against the Superhero Reg. Act? ...just curious...

Originally posted by bitca730
...so is Emma Frost against the Superhero Reg. Act? ...just curious...

Most probably anti-Val Cooper which should be Anti-government. However O.N.E has given Sebastian Shaw immunity and if she is part of the Hellfire club then she should be immune too. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter for me, IMO Emma always has a good reason for what ever she does.

sexmen win

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Okay maybe that was over exaggeratted, however Wanda was able to change the fate and history of the FF and the whole of 616 Earth. Now hypothetically speaking do you think it's possible that Wanda could change history by switching herself with past mortal Jean(Pre-manifistation). So basically Jeans parents give birth to Wanda, she marries Scott, fights with Emma and is destined to manifest the Phoenix Force?

Btw when I say mortal Pre-manifistation Jean I mean the one who wasn't aware that she is the Phoenix.

Hmm..chaos wave? When does the Handbook come out?

if Wanda did that, she would not have her own mutant powers. she would have jean's, and i really don't think she would erase herself like that.

i saw the X3 premiere!

Originally posted by UltimateStryfe
if Wanda did that, she would not have her own mutant powers. she would have jean's, and i really don't think she would erase herself like that.

i saw the X3 premiere!

Okay, so how about:
1. Erasing Jean Greys parents from existence.
or
2. Making it so Jean Grey never joined the X-Men and joined the Avengers instead.

How was it?

that would be more probable.

the movie was orgasmic. that's how good it was.

Originally posted by UltimateStryfe
that would be more probable.

the movie was orgasmic. that's how good it was.

Finally I found a person who said it was good. I think I'll go watch it today.

you must.
there is one part that made the whole movie.
you'll know what i'm talking about when you see it.

again dark phoenix wipes out avengers

totally. the movie speaks for it self.

but when she's Dark pheonix, she's not on anyone's side.

Originally posted by UltimateStryfe
totally. the movie speaks for it self.

but when she's Dark pheonix, she's not on anyone's side.

X-men=lose
avengers=lose
Dark Pheonix=wins

Dark Phoenix kicked ass in X3...

Take away Jean and the X-men lose 1000x over 😉

Originally posted by Grimm22
Take away Jean and the X-men lose 1000x over 😉

Originally posted by batdude123
Uh... Current Jean=Phoenix Force. 😉

She may have access to the phonix force, but that doesn't mean jean's packing the nigh omnipotent star-eating power of old. Jean will never unleash power on Dark Phoenix's level and that hesitation is gonna get her knocked out. The avengers know what jean is, and thus will hit her with everything they got first. Once she's down, the rest of the x-men fall by the numbers. Magneto will pose a slight problem, but the avengers have taken him before.

If Jean was so strong, how did Xorn kill her? Really, what constant high showings does she have?

Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
If Jean was so strong, how did Xorn kill her? Really, what constant high showings does she have?