Phillip, murdering people doesn't do anything for me, and I'm glad.
Originally posted by PVS
if you want to be anal over it, you can say that. however the true nature of paedophilia is to be aroused by a child's immaturity and under/undevelopment, physically and/or mentally...that is as it applies to the psychiatric disorder and not to technical law, which is far less specific.lets say you sleep with a 14/15 year old girl, but she has the physical and mental characteristics and maturity of a woman well within age. the court will tag the title 'peadophile' on you, and yet you were not attracted to any immature or under/undeveloped qualities. so although you broke the law, the law then labels you with an incorrect and inappropriate title.
so its a term which overly demonises the common 'statutory rapist' (as if tagging on 'rapist' isnt intense enough, right?) , and thus trivialising the very dangers to society for which the term, rooted in psychology, was even conceived: paedophiles.
Which is why I said it's hardly practical to include girls or boys of say, 17. Just that it could be said technically.
-AC
Originally posted by PVS
lets say you sleep with a 14/15 year old girl, but she has the physical and mental characteristics and maturity of a woman well within age. the court will tag the title 'peadophile' on you, and yet you were not attracted to any immature or under/undeveloped qualities. so although you broke the law, the law then labels you with an incorrect and inappropriate title.
A generalisation: a girl who has sex at young age ends up being a bit f*cked-up later in life. Therefore, regardless of whether you believe they are physically and mentally mature, they probably aren't. Sure, it's not the same as paedophillia, but it's something to support the application of a reasonable age of consent. Of course, what is 'reasonable' is subjective, but I think most people would agree that it shouldn't be below 16.
End of generalisation.
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
A generalisation: a girl who has sex at young age ends up being a bit f*cked-up later in life. Therefore, regardless of whether you believe they are physically and mentally mature, they probably aren't. Sure, it's not the same as paedophillia, but it's something to support the application of a reasonable age of consent. Of course, what is 'reasonable' is subjective, but I think most people would agree that it shouldn't be below 16.End of generalisation.
Re: Pedophiles to launch political party
Originally posted by Templares
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060530/od_nm/dutch_pedophiles_dc;_ylt=Asec.ygrrX52O3WqWBkuZR6s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3NW1oMDRpBHNlYwM3NTc-I fear for the human race 🙁 .
You and me both babe. 🙁
Originally posted by Eis
I know I'm not waiting to be sixteen to have sex. Or do you mean you think anyone below the age of 16 should not have sex with an adult?
It might seem sexist, but what I said mainly applies to girls. However, in the case of it being a homosexual relationship between two men, then I think it applies in a parallel manner. Adult males generally have a far more predatory sexual nature than adult women.
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
It might seem sexist, but what I said mainly applies to girls. However, in the case of it being a homosexual relationship between two men, then I think it applies in a parallel manner. Adult males generally have a far more predatory sexual nature than adult women.
Lol I just want to understand your point of view.
The general protection of girls, in my opinion, comes from the idea that not only are they physically more vulnerable, but the psychological influence of females having to be penetrated. It's more of a violation, to most people.
It's taking a male's penis into your body and being in a position where a man could force it. A man has a better chance of defending himself against another male than a female does.
-AC
Originally posted by Eis
So you don't think girls below the age of 16 should have sex. But it's ok for men to?
Also, is it that you don't think girls below 16 should have sex with adults or sex at all?
And, what do you mean it works in a parallel way for homosexual cases?Lol I just want to understand your point of view.
No, I think most kids should wait, but girls more so.
Both, but if they must, then with someone around their own age.
Gay kids shouldn't get frisky with older dudes. If they must, then with someone around their own age.
Ya get me now?
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The general protection of girls, in my opinion, comes from the idea that not only are they physically more vulnerable, but the psychological influence of females having to be penetrated. It's more of a violation, to most people.It's taking a male's penis into your body and being in a position where a man could force it. A man has a better chance of defending himself against another male than a female does.
-AC
Exactly. Alot of people don't realize this bit.
Word from The Netherlands on this; this political party's right to exist has been denied by the public, parlements, govnerments, first chamber and the prime-minister.
The whole of The Netherlands is against the believes and demands of this party of sickos, exept for the few bastards that uphold their ideas.
And with them being only a very small fragment of society and the common desire to stop these monsters amoung the rest of us, this problem will be silenced soon.
Originally posted by Philip_ll
A child just doesnt do anything for me, and im glad.
Your definition of 'child' does not represent the legal definition of 'consent' in many societies. Some children develop both physically and mentally quicker than others, which further blurs the line on what governing authorities should determine the 'consentual' age limit to be. Recent studies conducted on Catalan females give examples of young women who are fully capable of breeding before 9 years of age.
The study population consisted of all 54 Catalan (Northern Spanish) girls with early/normal onset of breast development, who had been followed up to final height in the Pediatric Endocrine Unit of Barcelona (Barcelona, Spain) over the past decade (1986-1997). At that time, it was estimated that <4% to 6% of Catalan girls experienced onset of puberty before 9 years of age.3
The argument against 'consentual' sex amongst younger age groups is fatally flawed. Flawed in the respect that it seeks to place legal restrictions on the love one individual can feel for another. Should the government be able to determine who one can fall in love with?
"Love, like a river, will cut a new path. whenever it meets an obstacle."
No obstacle, be it gender, race, age, or the legal definition of one's ability to give consent, can overcome the unstoppable gushing force of nature known as love.
this is one of those subjects that has been taken too far. this is a terrible thing, in my own opinion people should wait until they are 18 to have sex, not as a legal age, but just out of common sense. i do think that the molestation of children and teenagers under the age of 16 should mean that the offender recieve a harsher punishment here in the uk.
one thing though... i dont agree with parents who let their daughters dress in short skirts and the like, as i feel children are taught to grow up far too young these days. girls aged 10 think they're too old to play with a barbie doll, and start experimenting with make up etc. whether this has anything to do with pedophilia i dont know.
Originally posted by darth_royke
this is one of those subjects that has been taken too far. this is a terrible thing
How is it a 'terrible thing' for two individuals to be in love with one another?
Originally posted by darth_royke
in my own opinion people should wait until they are 18 to have sex
That is only your opinion, and your opinion is based on the societal standards which you are accustomed to.
Originally posted by darth_royke
not as a legal age, but just out of common sense. i do think that the molestation of children and teenagers under the age of 16 should mean that the offender recieve a harsher punishment here in the uk.
As reiterated to you and others countless times, what one considers to be a 'child', is dependant upon various cultural standards. Moreover, as also mentioned before, scientific studies on Catalan women have demonstrated that some 'children' mature much earlier than others.
The study population consisted of all 54 Catalan (Northern Spanish) girls with early/normal onset of breast development, who had been followed up to final height in the Pediatric Endocrine Unit of Barcelona (Barcelona, Spain) over the past decade (1986-1997). At that time, it was estimated that <4% to 6% of Catalan girls experienced onset of puberty before 9 years of age.
A question for you and others of like minded rationale, do you believe the law should put a legal definition on who an individual can fall in love with?
Originally posted by She - Ra
"Love, like a river, will cut a new path. whenever it meets an obstacle."No obstacle, be it gender, race, age, or the legal definition of one's ability to give consent, can overcome the unstoppable gushing force of nature known as love.
So I guess you beleive a toddler could have sexual relations with an adult ?