Elder Predator vs Venom

Originally posted by jinzin
How? venom has casually dodged bullets and lasers... his CIS just usually prevents him from doing that cause he likes going into brawl mode... he doesn't need a spider sense to avoid danger because his reflexes have already been said to be around spiderman's level and he can probably take about 90% of what a pred's gonna dish out anyways..

not as mobile as what? a predator? surely you're joking.. 🤨

and why couldn't he take down a pred in the jungle? as I recall several humans in both comics and movies have been able to do so using limited and/or primative means, but venom can't? 🙄

noo. i meant venom isnt as mobile as he would be in the city cuz he'd be able to swing on buildings with webshooters liike spidey.

and an elder pred would eventually hit Venom with that plasma cannon, theyre beyond surgical with them damn things. u think theyre bada$$ with a sword?, just think what an elder would do with a shoulder cannon. and yes, that plasma IS too hot for Venoma symbiote to withstand, iont care how durable u say it is.

an eldar would do well against venom, but maybe venom could land a lucky punch and it would send the pred into a heavy daze and if it doesnt show resiliency it would get a second helping for sure, so a good, probably best eldar predator could win. i'd say venom could take an alien queen to be honest and an eldar predator has been said to be able to take down a queen, not easily but still.

Originally posted by jinzin

yeah and the strongest venom that ever existed pwned juggernaught with ease in a physical contest... what are you trying to prove here... if you have to bring up the baddest strongest preds just to make this competition interesting that doesn't say much for preds in general.

Nah.. most preds are assumed to be at the 10 ton class range which is below spiderman level.... venom's ahead of that class range by leagues... in any case their strength doesn't really matter here.. if they're not stronger than juggy or hulk then their brute force ain't doing much here.

u think that a Pred, and the strongest pred at that that has ever existed. meaning like no other will ever be like him(48 ton strength) lifting a tank is bullshyt, u should check to see what ur saying. ur saying a street-levler like Venom could take hits from som1 like the Juggernaut and laugh about it. 😱 now thats some bull. and iont care iont wanna c the scans ive already seem em. thats PIS though. a giant whos virtually invulnerable with 100 ton+ strength and that cant be stopped due to the laws of motion when he gains momentum pounding away at som1 like Venom and him LAUGHING about it? 🤨 now thats some shi*ty azz writing

Not all of the yautja have the indestructable melee weapons but the Elders sure as **** do. Ur right most Elders don't use ranged attacks but in these forums they can.Venom is not getting out of the netgun.

Originally posted by braz
u think that a Pred, and the strongest pred at that that has ever existed. meaning like no other will ever be like him(48 ton strength) lifting a tank is bullshyt, u should check to see what ur saying. ur saying a street-levler like Venom could take hits from som1 like the Juggernaut and laugh about it. 😱 now thats some bull. and iont care iont wanna c the scans ive already seem em. thats PIS though. a giant whos virtually invulnerable with 100 ton+ strength and that cant be stopped due to the laws of motion when he gains momentum pounding away at som1 like Venom and him LAUGHING about it? 🤨 now thats some shi*ty azz writing

who can lift 48 tons????

Originally posted by UltimateStryfe
who can lift 48 tons????

this one predator. who was like the strongest one who ever existed of the yauhjta race or w/e. yea. pretty badass huh? 😉

id like to see Venom beat his azz

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Not all of the yautja have the indestructable melee weapons but the Elders sure as **** do. Ur right most Elders don't use ranged attacks but in these forums they can.Venom is not getting out of the netgun.

the netgun will hold him statitonary long enoughi think for the elder to blast some plasma bolts at em which'll for sure put em down. but i woulndt be too sure as to it would hold zVenom forever for good. like they said, those nets CAN break. but i thought only Xenomorph acid could do that?? not normal blades?! 🤨 now thats some more bullshyt, that metal IS on the same level which adamantium is for marvel universe.

The lifting issue isnt that specific. So i'm not sure how heavy the tank was. Modern Abrams tank weights; 67.5 tons..

Originally posted by braz
the netgun will hold him statitonary long enoughi think for the elder to blast some plasma bolts at em which'll for sure put em down. but i woulndt be too sure as to it would hold zVenom forever for good. like they said, those nets CAN break. but i thought only Xenomorph acid could do that?? not normal blades?! 🤨 now thats some more bullshyt, that metal IS on the same level which adamantium is for marvel universe.

Like I said there r some that can break. Some wristblades are acid-resistant and some are not. Some r indestructable and some r not. The onlyu weapons of the yautja that r always indestructable regardless of the class yautja are the combi-sticks and the smart-disk. But Elders have acid-resistant, indestructable extended wristblades and shuriken. Point is all of the Elder melee weapons r indesttructable pretty much.

nice! 48 tons! man why dont they stick a predator like that in the avp crossovers, he could be the main predator to watch out for... it would make it more interesting!

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Pain is a wide spectrum of expression... but pain has little to no meaning with incapacitation 100% of the time, I could knock you unconscious without you feeling a thing, and I could do something like, put my finger under your nose and make you feel extreme levels of pain, and do no immediate affect to your immediate health.

So does venom react to spiderman's hits?

Most definately so.

Has venom yelled in pain as well?

Yes.

Juggernaut while fighting Hulk yelled as well, so? Still doesn't prove anything.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master

Spiderman has hurt the hulk, so he CAN hurt venom...

Juggernaut KOed Thing in three punches but couldn't KO Venom in 10 so?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master

He hasn't? Spiderman and venom have teamed up several times against Carnage, and the FF had to assist, and carnage was detained.

Sorry but NEVER happened, he never fought fantastic four and he ONLY fought Spider-man and Venom as a team in savage alliance. In maximum carnage spider-man was actually stopping Venom from going for Carnage and when they fougtht as a team Carnage had many villians to help him.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master

The maximum carnage saga, why does everyone seem to forget that the avengers hit him with an alpha wave and that weakened carnage, I love that comic, and venom was beating him up. Carnage was in a weakened state in that fight, hell he wasn't even TRYING to fight.

Venom was barely standing when Carnage appeared so he was in MUCH worse shape and still beat him. Carnage tried to fight but couldn't lay a finger on Venom.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master

So what its a comic, comic characters joke alot, especially in spiderman of all places. Carnage was weakened and brock rushed him into the generators before he came back to full power.

Brock was the one who wasn't in full power. He was tortured for hours before the fight. Venom did rushed him into generators but after beating him for two issues.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master

But somehow yelling "ouch" isn't credible? Somehow contradictory.

Carnage IS faster, and stronger than venom, he is statistically proven so, outside of matches and popularity contests... the person in the symbiote may be different more or less, but carnage's symbiote is stronger... add to the fact that Cassidy is willing to kill, and you have a beast.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master

Spiderman, black cat, and a shitload of other's helped to overcome him, Carnage went to dig his mother out of a grave, he was obviously in a weakened psychological state from the alpha wave.

Actually Spider-man was only distrubing Venom there. Everytime Venom was going to finish Carnage Spider-man was attacking him from the back. Venom did beat Carnage in fair fight and there is nothing to argue about.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master

And he didn't seem to be fighting back at his greatest potential.
Spiderman begged Venom to leave Carnage alone because they weren't killers in an example, and Carnage was weakened and they had little time.

He was fighting at full potential and WASN'T weakened. Where did you get that from. Venom simply was beating him and laughing at him that Carnage couldn't even return the favour.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master

No, spiderman and venom have been shown weaker, (especially during ealier appearences) by carnage.

Hell spiderman beat carnage symbiote on silver surfer, but that doesn't really mean that spiderman is a good match for Kleutus.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master

Venom isn't stronger, or faster, than Carnage, nor can he attack with his symbiote like Kleutus can... I don't see him winning in a versus match in this forum, perhaps in a popularity contest though. Or in comics.

Couldn't attack like what? With axes? Actually he can and he did formed shape weapon with his suit.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master

That same match venom was attacking carnage before he could come back to full power and ran him into generators. Why do people leave this out?

Why do people leave that Venom was weakend MUCH more that Carnage. He couldn't even stand still. He ran him into those generators after beating crap of him for a long time.

Venom did beat Carnage MANY times in fair one-on-one fights. You can't denie it. He was shown superior to Kassidy in all fights except for the first Carnage appearance.

Both Spider-man and Daredevil had to stop Venom from killing Carnage.

That's what happened when Spider-man tried to fight Carnage.

And that is what happened after Venom got tired of Spider's worthless tries.

Carnage had problems with his brains but it didn't effected his strength or speed and he DID tried to fight back but just couldn't.
And Venom was even MUCH weaker after hours of torture. He could barely stand. So it WAS a fair one-on-one fight. Spider-man was as much fighting against Venom as against Carnage during that fight. Still Venom beat Kassidy.

Oh! And on-topic. Venom would murder Predator.

Elder's rule.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Elder's rule.

😆

damn skippy.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Carnage had problems with his brains but it didn't effected his strength or speed and he DID tried to fight back but just couldn't.
And Venom was even MUCH weaker after hours of torture. He could barely stand. So it WAS a fair one-on-one fight. Spider-man was as much fighting against Venom as against Carnage during that fight. Still Venom beat Kassidy.

meh. Carnage was going easy on him. kinda like Batman beating Supes. ya know? if he really wanted to, he'd smash him. but of course he wont do that to his own father.

Originally posted by braz
meh. Carnage was going easy on him. kinda like Batman beating Supes. ya know? if he really wanted to, he'd smash him. but of course he wont do that to his own father.

LOL yeah, he is too kind to fight his own father.