Originally posted by MutantMessiah
Sounds like Publius doesn't actually know what he's talking about.
Where is the merit to this statement? Is this conclusion derived from your prominent tenure as an adversary of Publius? Someone who has constantly debated and debunked his theories? Someone who clearly demonstrates an intellect surpassing his own? Though you are surely more intelligent than most give you credit for, Nebaris, there is a very simple reason that Publius holds unanimous respect by those who have read his material; he is a supreme logician. Where is your credit? This would be another example of your tendancy to spout off unsupported statements without realistic foundation when it suits your purposes or when you get desperate. I submit to you that your methods are why everyone but Advent and myself consider you to be an absolute fool.
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This is a good fight in my opinion and I'm still unsure about who would win.
Obviously the major player here is Luke. He can beat all the people here. The second best would be The Exile (limitless potential).
It really depends on who would fight who.
Malak and Anakin are the weak links.
she has become a wound in the force, carrying the deaths of all who died in the battle within her, and that by feeding on death and leeching life energy of her companions was how she re-gained her connection to the force. According to the Masters, she was a threat to all living beings, and possibly the Force itself, and in time she would possess the same magnitude of power like Darth Nihilus and ultimately consume the galaxy
From Wookiepedia
And I think that Revan would be able to take Anakin(just) in a saber fight.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusWookiepedia? I don't mind you using it as a source but what the hell backs up that passage? She is merely a threat due to her wound in the force nature, NOT due to her power.
From Wookiepedia
Originally posted by Darth ExodusDespite knowing little about revans skills.
And I think that Revan would be able to take Anakin(just) in a saber fight.
I don't mind you using it as a source but what the hell backs up that passage? She is merely a threat due to her wound in the force nature, NOT due to her power.
Despite knowing little about revans skills.
Her list of victories speak for themselves.
She was also incredably powerful with the Force, which helps, and was most likely a Jedi Guardian because of Qel'Dromas vision of her.
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Its backed up by the comments of the Jedi and Kriea.
Pay atention to the 'feeding on death' part. Even if its to regain her power its obvious that it goes way beyond this. Think of her like a Black hole, she pulls force energy towards herself and when people die they cannot resist her pull. She does the same thing as Nihilus in that she forms bonds but instead of doing it as an attack she does it unconciously. She then leechs power from people.
Also notice that it says 'in time she would possess the same magnitude of power like Darth Nihilus and ultimately consume the galaxy' , which clearly back me up. After all Nihilus did hold a whole ship together with no visible effort.Her list of victories speak for themselves.
She was also incredably powerful with the Force, which helps, and was most likely a Jedi Guardian because of Qel'Dromas vision of her.
Stfu Noob. YOu have no concept of canon policy. The exile is an average jedi.
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Also notice that it says 'in time she would possess the same magnitude of power like Darth Nihilus and ultimately consume the galaxy' , which clearly back me up. After all Nihilus did hold a whole ship together with no visible effort.
Then why did you have to set charges in the ship. Better yet if Nihilus was holding it together then it should have fallen apart once you killed him. But it didn't
this thread has seen alot of debating.
what I mean by george lucas not meaning to create a godlike luke is...
I think the moral of Star Wars is not that you become a god. If the humanistic view that Luke became a "god" and the protector of the universe, this would make everything that palpatine has said in rots about the quest for power absolutely true. The true Moral of star wars is not that if you have enough raw potential and force "destiny" is on your side then you might just win no matter what the odds are against you. I believe that Lucas just signed a paper that said they were allowed to write books that took place after Star wars and just stamped his name to it, not knowing that they were going to turn luke into a god.
The Moral of Star Wars was that Good Conquers evil, no matter what the odds.
The whole point of star wars philosophy and the way george lucas was trying to impact the world with his movies totally goes against Luke becoming a God.
Luke was meant to be a farmboy who grew up and saved the universe against amaizing odds with a rag-tag set of freinds. the whole idea that luke becomes a God totally screws this whole moral up because now, luke is a god and he totally turned vader over because he had unlimited potential.... it kinda messes up the wonder of the whole original trilogy and the reason for Lucas's making of it.
Once again, I hate luke.
I mean George Lucas probably cried himself to sleep the night they made gunguns....
Then why did you have to set charges in the ship. Better yet if Nihilus was holding it together then it should have fallen apart once you killed him. But it didn't
EVERYONE knows that that game had tons of glitches and oversights. Thats just one.
And mabye he fused it together.
this thread has seen alot of debating.
what I mean by george lucas not meaning to create a godlike luke is...I think the moral of Star Wars is not that you become a god. If the humanistic view that Luke became a "god" and the protector of the universe, this would make everything that palpatine has said in rots about the quest for power absolutely true. The true Moral of star wars is not that if you have enough raw potential and force "destiny" is on your side then you might just win no matter what the odds are against you. I believe that Lucas just signed a paper that said they were allowed to write books that took place after Star wars and just stamped his name to it, not knowing that they were going to turn luke into a god.
The Moral of Star Wars was that Good Conquers evil, no matter what the odds.
The whole point of star wars philosophy and the way george lucas was trying to impact the world with his movies totally goes against Luke becoming a God.
Luke was meant to be a farmboy who grew up and saved the universe against amaizing odds with a rag-tag set of freinds. the whole idea that luke becomes a God totally screws this whole moral up because now, luke is a god and he totally turned vader over because he had unlimited potential.... it kinda messes up the wonder of the whole original trilogy and the reason for Lucas's making of it.
Once again, I hate luke.
I mean George Lucas probably cried himself to sleep the night they made gunguns....
This is actually a brilliant point that I've never thought of before (not meaning to sound condescendig or insulting)
It Does take the point out of Luke.
Just one more reason to hate the guy.
Stfu Noob. YOu have no concept of canon policy. The exile is an average jedi.
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
EVERYONE knows that that game had tons of glitches and oversights. Thats just one.
And mabye he fused it together.
And mabye the Exile herself held that ship together.
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Exept that it was actually stated in game that he held the ship together.
And everything else suggests otherwise
once from Kriea, once from Visas and once from that wierd Vaklu supporter thats on it.
Than please provide the statements from each of them. And where it was stated (cept from Tobin)
And everything else suggests otherwise
Doesn't matter. If it was stated by those three then its canon.
Than please provide the statements from each of them. And where it was stated (cept from Tobin)
Fornication!
I was hoping that you wouldn't ask me that. I'm afraid I can't as my computer is brokn and can't play the games anymore. I'm writing this on a school computer.
I'm sure someone else will step in and help me though.
Of the top of my head:
kriea says something like 'he resurected the ship from Malachor'etc when you ask her about Visas' master
Vaklu says 'his power permeats the ship, binding us to him. Through his power, this ship is pwered and stays together'
Force knows what Visas says.
But i KNOW that its stated.
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Doesn't matter. If it was stated by those three then its canon.
Wrong. Vaklu isn't an authority on the force, he is a fallible 3rd party character. Someone like Kreia's detail about the ancient sith could be taken as canon or at the very least, more canon than Vaklu because Kreia IS an authority on the ancient sith, while Vaklu knows nothing about the force. So if Nihilus could hold the Ravager up, he would have and if he WAS doing it, the Ravager would have crashed after his death. You lose.
well after careful consideration of this, I have realised that the "god" luke would win easily. sorry m8s.
Although I still dont believe in the "god" luke because he totally goes against the moral that george lucas was trying to accomplish with luke (aka a farmboy taking on rising odds to try and rid the galaxy of evil)