Kain VS Dante

????The elder god smashes through rock and such in cinematics but there are hardly any cinematics in LOK series really, its mostly all gameplay, however the elder gods strength doesnt lessen in gameplay, anyway if kain can survive the Eldar god, he can survive Dante's hits without being K.Oed

kains mist form.....what are you talking about FFS if hes mist you cant cut him CAN YOU..... Dante has never cut enemies formed ENTIRELY of mist, you CANNOT cut mist, its like slashing air

Kains speed is enough so he can perform several slashes while in the air, much like Dante, since theres no cinematics of him running up walls and such i cannot count such skills but the fact that he can move his sword so fast so that its a blur is faster than Dante, his sword rarely become a blur except in a few fights with Vergil and others but not usually, not like Kains

Originally posted by Burning thought
????The elder god smashes through rock and such in cinematics but there are hardly any cinematics in LOK series really, its mostly all gameplay, however the elder gods strength doesnt lessen in gameplay, anyway if kain can survive the Eldar god, he can survive Dante's hits without being K.Oed

kains mist form.....what are you talking about FFS if hes mist you cant cut him CAN YOU..... Dante has never cut enemies formed ENTIRELY of mist, you CANNOT cut mist, its like slashing air

Kains speed is enough so he can perform several slashes while in the air, much like Dante, since theres no cinematics of him running up walls and such i cannot count such skills but the fact that he can move his sword so fast so that its a blur is faster than Dante, his sword rarely become a blur except in a few fights with Vergil and others but not usually, not like Kains

I'm done, I concede this debate, you obviously don't like to listen, kain has been hurt in bis mist form in BO 2, he's never gone through an attack with his mist form and dante has demonstrated his speed many times in cutscene's. your comparing everyone's power to dante's without any proof. first a sarafan knight is as strong as dante, than the elder gods tentacles, not worth my time, later.

...you dont think the eldar god is as strong physically as Dante....you have some serious fanboy problems....

Also stop comparing modern Kain to older ones, all the older ones are obselete and not in this match wheras the newer Kain is, Mist form in BO 2 is a stealth move where you are physical, in Defiance you became actual mist when you dodge

Originally posted by Burning thought
...you dont think the eldar god is as strong physically as Dante....you have some serious fanboy problems....

Right, but your not a fanboy despite claimeing a sarafan knight is as strong as dante, ok.

Originally posted by Burning thought

Also stop comparing modern Kain to older ones, all the older ones are obselete and not in this match wheras the newer Kain is, Mist form in BO 2 is a stealth move where you are physical, in Defiance you became actual mist when you dodge

When you sidestep, how does that equal being invulnerable?

Again, making claims with no proof, waste of my time.

ive been attacked many times while sidestepping, the enemies cant hit you when you side step, perhaps because their not fast enough most of the time but thats not the point

Also i admit a sarafan knight is nothing to Dante's strength but their not usless or nothing, just because their humans, ime just defending them, i dont know why 😄

but it seems to me your just acting foolish, just because Defiance or the LOK series is not crap full of cinematics every level or so showing needless acts

Its just cinematics to make Dante look cool and funny, all his foolish comments and running down buildings, shooting a little snooker ball with his Guns, so much for powerful weaponry, his ebony and ivory cant even pierce a WOODEN snooker ball 🙄 the fact of the matter is you dont seem to like in game stuns, Kain can float, teleport and such, he moves at a speed enough to make blurs with his sword and although he isnt shown being shot or impaled all the time theres nothing to say he cant, hes an all powerful vampire king, he has taken the essence and gained the abilites of vampires that could run on walls for an almsot constant amount of time, those that can survive being implaled in the back constant amounts, he has defeaten the pillar guardians who have the power to destroy and transform entire lands and areas equeling a city in size and has an indestructable sword that can slow time, dimension movement, cause lightning strikes and madness in his enemies on top of having the power to burst into mist, reform himself from even complete dissolving, his strength of a vampire is enough but multiplied by hundreds of years of constant evolution and by gaining the strength and powers of many more vampires makes his strength legendary, his endurance basically infinate, TK abilites that allow him to move bodies, weapons and freeze them in place, not to mention all his thousands of years experiance and spells which i would not go into here and now but through all. And STILL you think some Devil boy who has not had much experiance in battle, has no spells whatsoever, cannot reform and is knocked down by a simple sword such as the Yamato which is nothing compared to the reaver and you still think he can have a slightest chance JUST because he has speed and some weapons that he has used to defeat his little enemies and some fancy cinematics

i rest my case, it seems you either are a fanboy or you simply ignore gameplay and go ONLY by cinematics just because in actualy gameplay Dante is landed on his ass by many a demon or monster even when doing his all so great attacks, i think if he was as godlike as he is shown in the cinematics, he would not be as easily thrown on his ass by a few wraiths, its not that hard to add controls enough to stop them yet the game doesn not allow it

Originally posted by Burning thought
ive been attacked many times while sidestepping, the enemies cant hit you when you side step, perhaps because their not fast enough most of the time but thats not the point

Also i admit a sarafan knight is nothing to Dante's strength but their not usless or nothing, just because their humans, ime just defending them, i dont know why 😄

but it seems to me your just acting foolish, just because Defiance or the LOK series is not crap full of cinematics every level or so showing needless acts

Its just cinematics to make Dante look cool and funny, all his foolish comments and running down buildings, shooting a little snooker ball with his Guns, so much for powerful weaponry, his ebony and ivory cant even pierce a WOODEN snooker ball 🙄 the fact of the matter is you dont seem to like in game stuns, Kain can float, teleport and such, he moves at a speed enough to make blurs with his sword and although he isnt shown being shot or impaled all the time theres nothing to say he cant, hes an all powerful vampire king, he has taken the essence and gained the abilites of vampires that could run on walls for an almsot constant amount of time, those that can survive being implaled in the back constant amounts, he has defeaten the pillar guardians who have the power to destroy and transform entire lands and areas equeling a city in size and has an indestructable sword that can slow time, dimension movement, cause lightning strikes and madness in his enemies on top of having the power to burst into mist, reform himself from even complete dissolving, his strength of a vampire is enough but multiplied by hundreds of years of constant evolution and by gaining the strength and powers of many more vampires makes his strength legendary, his endurance basically infinate, TK abilites that allow him to move bodies, weapons and freeze them in place, not to mention all his thousands of years experiance and spells which i would not go into here and now but through all. And STILL you think some Devil boy who has not had much experiance in battle, has no spells whatsoever, cannot reform and is knocked down by a simple sword such as the Yamato which is nothing compared to the reaver and you still think he can have a slightest chance JUST because he has speed and some weapons that he has used to defeat his little enemies and some fancy cinematics

i rest my case, it seems you either are a fanboy or you simply ignore gameplay and go ONLY by cinematics just because in actualy gameplay Dante is landed on his ass by many a demon or monster even when doing his all so great attacks, i think if he was as godlike as he is shown in the cinematics, he would not be as easily thrown on his ass by a few wraiths, its not that hard to add controls enough to stop them yet the game doesn not allow it

A fanboy calling me a fanboy, funny. 😆

ime slightly a fan, i like to state facts and reality, and reality is that Dante as strong as he is, for many reasons cannot beat Kain

Originally posted by Burning thought
ime slightly a fan, i like to state facts and reality, and reality is that Dante as strong as he is, for many reasons cannot beat Kain

its every fact i know on Kain, just because i know a lot about him doesnt mean ime a hard on fan, a fan boy in my eyes is someone who roots for his character in impossible odds and has not only games but every piece of merchandise he can get his hands on, all i have is the games and i like them enough to make Kain one of my gave characters and perhaps most powerful, Dante doesnt hold a light to him due to the Facts i posted in my large amount i typed, but their all facts that you may not know but you cannot deny unless you can definatley deem them false, take into consideration that Kain, according to one of the producers and designers of the game has relaernt all his BO 1, 2 skills through his centuries of rule and evolution after BO 2

Originally posted by Burning thought
its every fact i know on Kain, just because i know a lot about him doesnt mean ime a hard on fan, a fan boy in my eyes is someone who roots for his character in impossible odds and has not only games but every piece of merchandise he can get his hands on, all i have is the games and i like them enough to make Kain one of my gave characters and perhaps most powerful, Dante doesnt hold a light to him due to the Facts i posted in my large amount i typed, but their all facts that you may not know but you cannot deny unless you can definatley deem them false, take into consideration that Kain, according to one of the producers and designers of the game has relaernt all his BO 1, 2 skills through his centuries of rule and evolution after BO 2

No, a fanboy is indicated when bias is used to defend a point, simply because they disagree withit. when you compared a sarfan knight to dante, that was bias.

i was simply comparing that he is not useless and that a sarafan knights sword although not wielded with the speed and strength of Dante is not completly diffrent from Rebellion which although magical and powerful is not awsome like the Soul reaver

wheres you compared Dante's strength which is not proven to be able to punch bare handed through many feet of hard conrete and steel to the Eldar gods enormous tentacles which aren ot only heavey but with the strength of a god

Originally posted by Burning thought
i was simply comparing that he is not useless and that a sarafan knights sword although not wielded with the speed and strength of Dante is not completly diffrent from Rebellion which although magical and powerful is not awsome like the Soul reaver

wheres you compared Dante's strength which is not proven to be able to punch bare handed through many feet of hard conrete and steel to the Eldar gods enormous tentacles which aren ot only heavey but with the strength of a god

Play DMC 3 again, dante punched thick stone demon chess pieces,and metallic demons.

i wouldnt call them Demon, they just like knights that float around very slowly, easy, their not thick anyway if your talking about the ones on the level where you fight Dante brother, and so far few of the demons dante has fought are too impressive or thick in endurance or how you put it, you cannot compare Dante's hands to the elder gods enormous tentacles, hes being compared to the strength of a god plus the mass of the tentacles are very large

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Play DMC 3 again, dante punched thick stone demon chess pieces,and metallic demons.

Originally posted by Prince Marvin
right i just bouhgt that game

Originally posted by Burning thought
i wouldnt call them Demon, they just like knights that float around very slowly, easy, their not thick anyway if your talking about the ones on the level where you fight Dante brother, and so far few of the demons dante has fought are too impressive or thick in endurance or how you put it, you cannot compare Dante's hands to the elder gods enormous tentacles, hes being compared to the strength of a god plus the mass of the tentacles are very large

They are thick, try punchin a gaint stone sculpture and see how ell you do. elder gods tentacles are just that, huge tentacles. but, because his name is "Elder GOD" it's your exagerrate it's strentgh. I didn't say dante was stronger than the elder gods hits, but you act like his tentacles striking kain in game restriction is some high end feat.

ur right . dante can pwns

the fact however is true that the tentacles smash through thicker things than Dante could dream off, just because Kain can survive hits of them in game doesnt mean its not real or that its because of game restrictions, however either way, the strength of about 10 vampires which are each probably stronger than 100 men makes Kain stronger than Dante, just because he can break stone and that he is a demon doesnt make him stronger, at the same time he reforms after any wound and survives even his heart torn out, Dante i doubt would survive organs taken from him, especially his heart

Originally posted by Burning thought
the fact however is true that the tentacles smash through thicker things than Dante could dream off, just because Kain can survive hits of them in game doesnt mean its not real or that its because of game restrictions, however either way, the strength of about 10 vampires which are each probably stronger than 100 men makes Kain stronger than Dante, just because he can break stone and that he is a demon doesnt make him stronger, at the same time he reforms after any wound and survives even his heart torn out, Dante i doubt would survive organs taken from him, especially his heart

That translate to kain is stronger because he's kain, why are you comparing humans to vampires in an attempt to compare dante and kain, dante isn't a human. and it's to be expected that kain can survive without his heart, he's a vampire. vampires have far less weaknesses than humans. and with magic they can lessen these weaknesses. anyway dante is not a human, he's a demon. Again, what proof do you have that show's me kain is stronger than dante?

Kain smashes through conrete throughout the game on many occasions, picks up armour covered enemies with his hands easily, wheras Dante always uses his sword, he cant pick up his enemies with his hands or he isnt seen doing it, also it takes Dante a long time to defeat most of the enemies, even the lesser ones wheras Kain can smash through basically all his enemies and without being hit much due to his speed is far higher, although Kain uses powers more than muscle, but its commen sense that the strength of about 10 vampires would be more than 1 demon, although this is arguable without conrete evidence, but the fact that the LOK games are basically ALL gameplay and very few cinematics is another fact why you dont see many things such as Kain doing feats you cannot do ingame, however you see him teleport in cinematics and you cant ingame