Kain VS Dante

Originally posted by Burning thought
Kain smashes through conrete throughout the game on many occasions, picks up armour covered enemies with his hands easily, wheras Dante always uses his sword, he cant pick up his enemies with his hands or he isnt seen doing it, also it takes Dante a long time to defeat most of the enemies, even the lesser ones wheras Kain can smash through basically all his enemies and without being hit much due to his speed is far higher, although Kain uses powers more than muscle, but its commen sense that the strength of about 10 vampires would be more than 1 demon, although this is arguable without conrete evidence, but the fact that the LOK games are basically ALL gameplay and very few cinematics is another fact why you dont see many things such as Kain doing feats you cannot do ingame, however you see him teleport in cinematics and you cant ingame

So, if kain ses mostly magic and his pwers to do this, how does that translate to physical strentgh?!

Vampires are stronger than demons, what's up eith these claims?

well theres nothing you can say to convince me is there, all you can say is that Dante can K.O Kain because hes APPARENTLY strong enough to do so and APPARENTLY fast enough to start quicksilver which IMO would take a second too long to start before Kain can Kill Dante with an instant hit soul reaver blast that is SEEn in the game SOUL REAVER and he shoots Raziel with it and instant kills him every shot, blasts his body to dust

APPARENTLY Dante will surely win because hes Dante and that hes a Demon, you havnt said one fact that puts him above Kain that is back with a fact that says Kain cannot defend against it, Kain has so many powers that its difficult to even give Dante a chance, you havnt made a truly worthy comment that makes Kain lose this, so far he can reform and the only times you see him knocked out is after having his heart torn out which is now gone, but OFC the amazing Dante can use his MEGA speed and GODLIKE strength to put his hands through Kain and make him go unconious or punch him until he blacks out with his unbeatable quick silver that lasts a few minutes 🙄

Originally posted by Burning thought
well theres nothing you can say to convince me is there, all you can say is that Dante can K.O Kain because hes APPARENTLY strong enough to do so and APPARENTLY fast enough to start quicksilver which IMO would take a second too long to start before Kain can Kill Dante with an instant hit soul reaver blast that is SEEn in the game SOUL REAVER and he shoots Raziel with it and instant kills him every shot, blasts his body to dust
APPARENTLY Dante will surely win because hes Dante and that hes a Demon, you havnt said one fact that puts him above Kain that is back with a fact that says Kain cannot defend against it, Kain has so many powers that its difficult to even give Dante a chance

Whatever,later

this is wrong dante wins emperor was right if u play dmc u know

ok come on people i think demons and vampires are equal in power. thes two are fast strong and have unique abilities no one can argue this subject if you havent played all 3 devil may crys and all the legacy of kain games. so if you want to factor all these things lets break it down. kain can fight with the sword. so can dante. kain can freeze time. so can dante. both are agile. both have strong swords. the sparda sword and the soul reaver.and theres differences. obviously kain is a vampire dante is a demon. kain is a full fledged vampire. dante is half demon half human but can go full demon if he wants to. and these two are from two different time periods. so different surroundings that could work the eithers advantage. kain is fast and so is dante. kain has telekensis dante dosent but like i said i think dante could break free of kains grip if dante used his devil powers cause as some of you know when mundus tried to shoot dante with his eyes it deflected off of him do to his intense demon powers so i think dante could deflect kains telekentic abilites . kain can teleport and turn mist to avoid attacks. basically this would be a fight to the finish they can both match eachother i think in every aspect. the soul reaver is a strong sword but lets not forget that dantes father used this sword and fought and stoped all the demons from entering the human world ALONE. so that sword could equal the soul reaver. i know kain can fire a blast wave to steal souls but again i think dante could deflect it due to his strong demon powers. both could probely detroy eachothers enemies. demons humans,spiders ,vampires who gives a crap. its about these two individuals against eachother.now that i think about it i dont know who would win this fight it could go either way in my opinion it all comes down to is who wants it more. so in the words of Kain "Let us continue our conversation but on a somewhat different footing" and in the words of Dante "Lets Rock"

But the reaver needs souls to power it or else it weakens, same with kain and blood. if this fight draws out too long, kain is screwed.

naw i dont think so i think the soul reaver is strong enough even without haveing to suck souls and i think there will be enough blood shed for kain to sustain himself i mean we are talking about a guy whos been around longer than a millenium

not to mention he is lord of all vampires

so trust me people i know my stuff iv played all games and took everything into acountability and i think it would be an even match its who wants it more

honestly this is a good fight but id rather see kain and vergil fight cause Vergil is way better than dante with the sword and hes more calm and collective and hes sick with the beowulf gauntlets and has telekentics swords. that my friends would be a fight for the ages. intense to the max

hmm a fair opinion, but i still belive by far that Kains sword is stronger, the power to drain ones soul is beyond physical strength and power, devil mode isnt that wonderful, it makes you slightly immune to most damage but if his soul is taken from him then he will die, i dont see a way that he can dflect an instant bolt of soul destroying energy

Also telekenieses wont be deflected so easily, its a mind power, its not a projectile, its something invisbile, moving and touching you and holding you in place, it cannot really be deflected, Raziel who is a Demonic soul draining being of great power cannot deflect it, and id bet money that his body and power is greater than Dante's Devil power

but Metal is right, its a fair enough fight but eventually Dante will not be able to fight, if this battle ends up lasting for hundreds of years which could be possible since their almsot immune to many attacks and can teleport and move at great speed and so Kain will evolve with even more power

no need to quadruple post, metal, use the edit button at the bottom right of ur post..
but you and BT are right...

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
What does immortality have to do with K.O.ing kain?

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar

Again, when has kain controlled dimensions and time? Yes, I've played defaince, and kain has never controlled dimensions or time, your listing properties of the reaver. and kain has only time traveled with the help of a ruin and he can't control dimensions,but, you claimed he can, so give me an example.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar

What does attack have to do with thought, DMC 3 dante activated qucik silver wothout any manerisms what so ever. Have you played DMC 3, if not why are you debating a game you haven't played?

too right...and off topic for a sec...in your sig, samZ, when did venom ever get that...large..? 😐

Originally posted by MadMel
too right...and off topic for a sec...in your sig, samZ, when did venom ever get that...large..? 😐

In "Venom twist" he absorbed his clone and became bigger and stronger. But art there is kinda strange...

Originally posted by Sam Z

Heh, it was actually you who brought that "thinking" argument not me, so it'd be more fair for me to ask YOU if you payed it. I have and that's why i can tell that Dante won't be able to do anything once Kain uses tk chains, and if you think he can you'll have to prove it. Bet you can't do that.
Anyway, this is not fair thread, Kain vs Dante Vergil and Link was more like it and even there Kain would've killed them, so no point for arguing

Forget it samo, I'm not turning this to a looong debate, I sinced stop debating, so, you don't have to comment on my points.

once agan Kain is victorious until someone else LOVES dante and comes to protect him

Originally posted by Sam Z
In "Venom twist" he absorbed his clone and became bigger and stronger. But art there is kinda strange...

Sorry to bump this shit. But since Soul Reaver his only been used in gameplay, Dante has been shown to resist soul ripping[and even if he could he would have his demonic side--Dante also had his soul taken away]. Dante could kill Kain with Holy Light Energy[See: Beowulf], but at that same time Kain could bloodshower Dante, and gain the powers of a Demon God. It could go either way, but I think I give it to Dante. But, if Dante could stop time, he could cut Kain in half. But Dante still has his Doppleganger, and Kain has his powers. It would be a awesome battle no doubt. But, Dante just might win %1. Both are immortal, both can't die[well the rules so....].[both are /probably/ or atleast near invincible]. Dante still could use holy water on Kain. Even if Kain stops or slows time, Dante could disable it with his mind[Quicksilver]. Dante's Devil Trigger is as powerful as the power Kratos needed to kill Ares. And Dante still has his Majin Form[if it's allowed]if not he has his father's sword, which could kill Mundus The Devil himself[also Demons don't have a soul]. As for Kain's TK, Dante has TK also, but would he able to resist it? I don't know. He did prevent a motorcycle from hitting him. And he did shake off Mundus' beam. Kain is The King of Vampires. Dante is The Most Powerful of The Demons[and has surpassed his father][after killing Argosax][and has "technially" became sorta God][well if you do research Dante gains power if he kills demons--asorbs their power]. So, Dante is more powerful than Sparda, so you can only imagine how powerful he is. And if Dante was knocked out by Yamato, Kain was knocked out too. Dante has killed Vampires and Kain has killed Demons[but neither on "their" terms]. So, it would be a good matchup if they faught.

This has already been debated to death in numerous threads, Dante is completly annhilated