Yeah. Remember the story in the US a couple of years ago? Catholic priest in celibacy molesting young altar-boys?? Yeah… abstinence…
Originally posted by Eis
I doubt the priests would've molested those kids if they had lead a healthy sex life.
It has been suggested celibacy could be associated with pedophilic behaviour, I'm not an expert on the topic but I haven't read any studies that disproof the theory.
but what if their 'healthy sex life' involved molesting children?
the assumption is always that their lack of sex leads to paedophilia,
but i strongly disagree and think its ludicrous. paedophelia is a mental
disorder, not a reaction from being celibate. it could very well be that their paedophilia
is the very reason they became priests- atonement. (attempted at the risk of others)
Originally posted by PVS
but what if their 'healthy sex life' involved molesting children?
the assumption is always that their lack of sex leads to paedophilia,
but i strongly disagree and think its ludicrous. paedophelia is a mental
disorder, not a reaction from being celibate. it could very well be that their paedophilia
is the very reason they became priests- atonement. (attempted at the risk of others)
Originally posted by Eis
I guess that's just your opinion, I don't know a lot about pedophilia but I'm quite sure a mental disorder can be caused by many factors, maybe sexual abstinence might be one.
sexual abstinence can certainly cause stress, but not trauma.
at this point, enough is known about peadophilia to determine that
mere lack of sex doesnt just make a normal person want to molest
a child. in fact lack of sex is irrelevant, unless its lack of sex with children.
many people become priests as a matter of atonement. historically many
gay men would choose to become priests out of shame for what they were
and the idea that being a priest and never having sex would somehow redeem
them. im sure the same would apply for the mentallity of a potential child
molester. only problem is, unlike the self-hating gay man, he is putting those
around him in terrible danger.
so while the gay man might end up in 'white american heaven',
the kiddie fondler is actively risking the wellbeing of others,
earning him a special place in 'other that white american hell'
Originally posted by PVS
sexual abstinence can certainly cause stress, but not trauma.
at this point, enough is known about peadophilia to determine that
mere lack of sex doesnt just make a normal person want to molest
a child. in fact lack of sex is irrelevant, unless its lack of sex with children.many people become priests as a matter of atonement. historically many
gay men would choose to become priests out of shame for what they were
and the idea that being a priest and never having sex would somehow redeem
them. im sure the same would apply for the mentallity of a potential child
molester. only problem is, unlike the self-hating gay man, he is putting those
around him in terrible danger.so while the gay man might end up in 'white american heaven',
the kiddie fondler is actively risking the wellbeing of others,
earning him a special place in 'other that white american hell'
Originally posted by Eis
I guess that's just your opinion, I don't know a lot about pedophilia but I'm quite sure a mental disorder can be caused by many factors, maybe sexual abstinence might be one.
I strongly disagree. 👇
Lots of people don't get laid often, sometimes for years at a time. That don't make them pedophile. Their desires are still the same.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I strongly disagree. 👇Lots of people don't get laid often, sometimes for years at a time. That don't make them pedophile. Their desires are still the same.
Originally posted by Eis
I doubt the priests would've molested those kids if they had lead a healthy sex life.
It has been suggested celibacy could be associated with pedophilic behaviour, I'm not an expert on the topic but I haven't read any studies that disproof the theory.
Originally posted by PVS
but what if their 'healthy sex life' involved molesting children?
the assumption is always that their lack of sex leads to paedophilia,
but i strongly disagree and think its ludicrous. paedophelia is a mental
disorder, not a reaction from being celibate. it could very well be that their paedophilia
is the very reason they became priests- atonement. (attempted at the risk of others)
Coincidentally, Capt_Fantastic and I were discussing this last night. It is estimated that only 2-10% of perpetrators of child sexual abuse are actual structural pedophiles, i.e. individuals who are primarily attracted to children. The other 90-98% of perpetrators of child sexual abuse are situational pedophiles, i.e. individuals who are primarily attracted to adult partners. Situational pedophiles are opportunistic offenders who abuse children for a myriad of non-sexual reasons, e.g. stress, marital problems, the unavailability of adult partners, etc.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Coincidentally, Capt_Fantastic and I were discussing this last night. It is estimated that only 2-10% of perpetrators of child sexual abuse are actual structural pedophiles, i.e. individuals who are primarily attracted to children. The other 90-98% of perpetrators of child sexual abuse are situational pedophiles, i.e. individuals who are primarily attracted to adult partners. Situational pedophiles are opportunistic offenders who abuse children for a myriad of non-sexual reasons, e.g. stress, marital problems, the unavailability of adult partners, etc.
Says who? I strongly doubt that sexual child molesting is a "mere" opportunistic act. Our sexual drive is not GEARED at sexually immature/incompatible partners.
Have there been made any serious studies into the effects of celibacy? One thing is not getting laid for years, you may still be actively TRYING to do so and have the future prospect of HAVING sex in mind. With celibacy you will NEVER have the pleasure so to speak. I cannot imagine that can be healthy in ANY way - women were BURNED once, because godfearing men insisted their desire was caused by witchcraft.
Of course, celibacy and sexual molesting of altar-boys may be unrelated. And PVS may have a point concerning atonement. But what do we really know?
I know I could NEVER go into celibacy or practice abstience... I'd go NUTS!
It's so strange... I'm 16 an age when... well most guys are obsessed with sex and yet I could care less. Sex has very little appeal to me... and girls don't really seem to attract my attention either. Perhaps this will change as I grow older, but for now sex holds almost no importance to me.
I guess I'm just different than the norm.