Abstinence

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Get a life.

Thats all I need to say to you Capt.

Now, when you say "get a life", is that a life according to your standards?Or do I have the right to choose my own "version" of life? Nevermind, I'll pray over it and let you know what baby jesus tells me about it. I mean, if he can talk to teh president, he can talk to me too.

Now, I can't really recall, but I thought you had said that you were a sinner of all sorts in your earlier days, you did drugs and had sex and blah blah blah... I can't recall the thread and I do a search for all your posts if I thought I could stomach to reading everything you've said since you've been here.

And you can't honestly expect me not to comment on all the crap you spew. I mean, you did say I was gay because my father molested me in my crib when I was a baby.

And you can't honestly expect me not to comment on all the crap you spew. I mean, you did say I was gay because my father molested me in my crib when I was a baby.

Hahahahahahaha!

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Get a life.

Thats all I need to say to you Capt.

I got married because I love my wife.

We had sex before marriage, yes, and then chose abstinence through 8 months of pre-maritial counciling.

It's called "Recommited Virginity" and millions of Americans practice it.

I never once mentioned Christ, God, or Religion in my argument for abstinence:

[B]"Indeed.

This post, and the one by Ush, are the only good ones in this topic so far.

Yes, people were married at 15,14, and even 12 in olden days.

Yes, we are meant to have sex at a younger age than what modern society has limited us too. (if you were to count being educated, established, and financially secure as qualifications for finding a wife and getting the privilege of sex with her among other things.)

However, those aren't what we look for in order to have sex now days.

It's usually, Is she/he hot?

and Wanna do it?

But truth be told, abstinence, will do NOTHING to hurt you physically, or psychologicaly.

You wont' spontaneously combust with semen (for the guys) if you don't get laid by age 25.

You won't turn into some sort of sex craved pervert either.

It is in fact very sensible to wait until you find somebody who you love to marry, then have sex with just them.

You save yourself for them, (and hopefully, they for you) and both of you skip the whole "how many people have you been with" "have you ever been tested for STD's" "we need protection" "I missed my period" "we may need to get an abortion" bullshit.

Your spouse won't leave you or hate you for your sexual inexperience, (not if you truly love each other).

Instead you will explore sex together, getting better and better at it.
Plus, you won't have any frame of reference, no doubts or guilt about past lovers getttin in the way.

As for the nonsense about abstinent people being losers who can't get laid,...

I present Emily and Tony, 2 good friends of my wife and I.

He's a funny, sports-loving guy, and she's a cutie with a great personality.

BOTH of these "losers" were virgins at marriage, she 23 and he 26.

If you wanna f*ck whatever's in sight go for it, but don't act like those who choose to live differently are somehow "wierd", "nerds" or "losers." " [/B]

Originally posted by NineCoronas
I swear to god I've seen a post JUST like this somewhere before today.

It's probably what the Christian churches give their disciples to show to everyone why Abstinence is so great...including the picture.

Originally posted by Bardock42
It's probably what the Christian churches give their disciples to show to everyone why Abstinence is so great...including the picture.

Originally posted by NineCoronas
Actually, I think it was on a christian site regarding absitence. 😐

QED

Originally posted by Jonathan Mark
Perhaps a thread has already been done on this before if it has you all have my sincere apologies.

Now in my High School the moment you declare to be a believer of abstinence you are ridiculed. I have always wondered why the teenage population and (in some of my own experiences at least) adults get so antagonistic against abstinence. Or not exactly antagonistic, but... uncomfortable seems to be the best way to describe it. Perhaps I am wrong, but it just seems to me from my own personal experience that some if not many people seem to view abstinence as foolish. In some ways it scares me to see the lack of sexually responsibility in my peers. At the moment in my High School there are two Freshmen pregnant, one Sophomore and one Junior. Out of a student body of 2,000 yes I understand that these are incredibly small numbers; however, the number of students who actively engage in intercourse (or at least claim to do so) is a frighteningly much higher number.

Understandably sex plays a powerful and dominate role on modern day society (and I suppose all of human history as well), but I fail to see any harm in restraint. I'm not even talking about the religious viewpoint, but the simple fact that abstinence seems at least to me a gesture of common sense. Or perhaps I am simply bias towards abstinence due to the heavily religious household I live in.

Now I am only 16 so my experience in life and the complications of relationships in general are limited so perhaps I am speaking more from ignorance than common sense. I make no claim to understand the complications of a close relationship (as I have never been in one) and nor to I claim to assume that what I believe is correct. However, my ears (or I suppose I should say eyes) are open to other's thoughts on the subject.

-JM

I agree wholeheartedly. Even without taking a religious stand on it, abstinence is a matter of common sense, which seems to be a subject absent in most high schools, not to mention...everywhere else.
I fail to see why so many high schoolers have sex with the glaring possibility of pregnancy, for one thing. Contrary to popular belief, condoms don't work one hundred percent of the time. Another point is STDs, many of which it makes no difference if you use a condom or not, you're going to contract it. To me, it just seems silly.

Originally posted by Nazgulinthedark
I agree wholeheartedly. Even without taking a religious stand on it, abstinence is a matter of common sense, which seems to be a subject absent in most high schools, not to mention...everywhere else.
I fail to see why so many high schoolers have sex with the glaring possibility of pregnancy, for one thing. Contrary to popular belief, condoms don't work one hundred percent of the time. Another point is STDs, many of which it makes no difference if you use a condom or not, you're going to contract it. To me, it just seems silly.

It's not quite true, a condom actually protects you from STDs and the thing is that sex supposedly is a hell of a lot of fun. So much fun even that the slight risks there are seem like a small cost.

Originally posted by Bardock42
It's not quite true, a condom actually protects you from STDs and the thing is that sex supposedly is a hell of a lot of fun. So much fun even that the slight risks there are seem like a small cost.

It only protects from STDs transported by semen, but many of them are transmitted by genital contact. And sometimes that condom doesn't work for semen, like when it doesn't prevent pregnancy.

Originally posted by Nazgulinthedark
It only protects from STDs transported by semen, but many of them are transmitted by genital contact. And sometimes that condom doesn't work for semen, like when it doesn't prevent pregnancy.

Yes, but the risks are indeed pretty low, if you are careful. And in case of pregnancy one can still get an abortion. Or one of the Pills after sexual intercourse.

Also, you also need your partner to have been abstinent. And if you are going to marry anyways, why wait until it is done?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes, but the risks are indeed pretty low, if you are careful. And in case of pregnancy one can still get an abortion. Or one of the Pills after sexual intercourse.

Also, you also need your partner to have been abstinent. And if you are going to marry anyways, why wait until it is done?

Yeah, that's why one in five Americans has herpes, because it's such a low risk. Yes, exactly.
Abortion and the morning-after pill don't protect you from HIV, which is transported by semen.

And I highly doubt that the first person you sleep with is the person you're going to end up marrying. I can see if you're already engaged, but most people aren't when they have sex.

Originally posted by Nazgulinthedark
Yeah, that's why one in five Americans has herpes, because it's such a low risk. Yes, exactly.
Abortion and the morning-after pill don't protect you from HIV, which is transported by semen.

And I highly doubt that the first person you sleep with is the person you're going to end up marrying. I can see if you're already engaged, but most people aren't when they have sex.

Herpes is not only a STD.
Ad yes, HIV is certainly a risk, although it is very much lowered by the usage of condoms. And what if the partner you are going to marry has HIV? Could be just as much, the risk is just a little lower again. So it is all about taking risks. And some people think the amount of pleasure generated by sexual intercourse are worth the risks they take.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Herpes is not only a STD.
Ad yes, HIV is certainly a risk, although it is very much lowered by the usage of condoms. And what if the partner you are going to marry has HIV? Could be just as much, the risk is just a little lower again. So it is all about taking risks. And some people think the amount of pleasure generated by sexual intercourse are worth the risks they take.

I meant genital herpes, the one you get from having sex.
I wouldn't risk contracting HIV, which by the way will almost certainly kill you, for a few minutes of pleasure. Like I said, it sounds silly to me.

Originally posted by NineCoronas
I swear to god I've seen a post JUST like this somewhere before today.

I'll tell you where you've seen it. In practically every one of Sithsabre's posts. He keeps posting that picture of the two of them, like the image of happiness justifies his stupidity.

Well, Sith, guess what? No one gives a shit about your gaudy, over the shirt necklace, or your blushing bride.

But, I can understand your perspective. I mean, if I hadn't had sex by the time I was(and am currently) 26, I'd have thought that orgasm was sent by god too.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
"Recommited Virginity"

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Ey sithsaber, ¿qué es eso , guey?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Well, Sith, guess what? No one gives a shit about your gaudy, over the shirt necklace, or your blushing bride.

That wasn't very nice, Capt.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
That wasn't very nice, Capt.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
That wasn't very nice, Capt.

Nor was it meant to be.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Indeed.

This post, and the one by Ush, are the only good ones in this topic so far.

Yes, people were married at 15,14, and even 12 in olden days.

Yes, we are meant to have sex at a younger age than what modern society has limited us too. (if you were to count being educated, established, and financially secure as qualifications for finding a wife and getting the privilege of sex with her among other things.)

However, those aren't what we look for in order to have sex now days.

It's usually, Is she/he hot?

and Wanna do it?

But truth be told, abstinence, will do NOTHING to hurt you physically, or psychologicaly.

You wont' spontaneously combust with semen (for the guys) if you don't get laid by age 25.

You won't turn into some sort of sex craved pervert either.

It is in fact very sensible to wait until you find somebody who you love to marry, then have sex with just them.

You save yourself for them, (and hopefully, they for you) and both of you skip the whole "how many people have you been with" "have you ever been tested for STD's" "we need protection" "I missed my period" "we may need to get an abortion" bullshit.

Your spouse won't leave you or hate you for your sexual inexperience, (not if you truly love each other).

Instead you will explore sex together, getting better and better at it.
Plus, you won't have any frame of reference, no doubts or guilt about past lovers getttin in the way.

As for the nonsense about abstinent people being losers who can't get laid,...

I present Emily and Tony, 2 good friends of my wife and I.

He's a funny, sports-loving guy, and she's a cutie with a great personality.

BOTH of these "losers" were virgins at marriage, she 23 and he 26.

If you wanna f*ck whatever's in sight go for it, but don't act like those who choose to live differently are somehow "wierd", "nerds" or "losers."

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Two people can teach other from scratch far better than one can try to erase or reprogram the others BAD experiences (because they do sometimes happen) or misconceptions.

Two people who actually LOVE each other,(as the poster you responded to was saying) won't care about inexperience.....

Rather, they will have quite alot of fun learning and discovering what they other person likes, and what they themselves like.

I understand your point about wanting to take the car for a few test drives to see how well it runs...

some folks would just rather get something brand new with no milage on it. 🙂

Dr. Phil - "More Sex with Kim Cattrall" - "In Search of the Big O"

Wayne and Erin have a problem in the bedroom that dates back to their wedding night.

"That first night, I don't even think I really knew what an orgasm was,"says Erin, "and so when I didn't have it, I wasn't worried. Finally, about a year after we were married, I really started feeling jealous of him, and so I started reading books about how to do it and many different positions. At this point, sex is a little harder for us because of the pressure. Afterward, I feel more frustrated and, 'Why didn't it work this time? What are we doing wrong? Can we try anything else?' I don't fake orgasm, but sometimes I'll fake how excited I am. He doesn't like me doing that, but it's kind of a double-edge sword because if I don't, then he's not having as much fun."

Wayne says,"I realized that Erin wasn't having an orgasm a couple months after we got married. At first I started feeling a little guilty. I wondered what was I doing or not doing right. I started looking on the Internet and we also tried different, like, gels. I want her to have that full experience that I have, and it feels almost unfair for me tohave it and she's not having it. Probably the worst thing that I think, is that she'll always feel unfulfilled and that something will always be missing in our relationship."

"The hardest part for me is I feel likethere's something really great out there that I'm missing out on," Erin says. "I do feel guilty. I feel dumb. I feel like maybe I'm just sexually inadequate."

You know what I'd say to Abstinence if I ever met it? I'd say "Hello, Abstinence. How are you? It's nice to meet you."

Wouldn't that be nice?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
But, I can understand your perspective. I mean, if I hadn't had sex by the time I was(and am currently) 26, I'd have thought that orgasm was sent by god too. [/B]

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