Originally posted by Mider999Have you ever heard about pis? That should answer your whole post...
his powers where copied by a mutant and he needed to have the celestial judge defeat him not LT himself.the whole korvac thing id ont need to go into detail he said he could not defeat korvac
the IG thing has been reconned just cause he snaped it off dont matter no more even eternity is now more powerful then the IG
this latest lost to reed richards is sad a supposid cosmic above all cosmics losing to reed richards
even if he is as strong as he is, some of my fav characters can still beat him, preacher tells him to drop dead, or spawn now equal to image god and devil just slaps him around.
So, um... you think a Celstial (that was made out of Eternity meditating), is more powerful that LT?
Pis.
No, the only, ONLY reason Korvac survived was because Death was helping him out behind the scenes. She saved him, after LT shot one blow, so LT just sealed off the universe.
Wait, when has the IG been below Eternity? I remember it punking the shit out of Eternity twice. Also back in that time, it also punked most of the abstracts before Warlock was about to fight LT. LT snapped his fingers and remade everything that was destroyed (Eternity, Celestials, Galactus, etc). He also made the IG obselete after.
How is this mentioned along the lines of, "sad feats"?
Reed Richards spent 30 years builing that machine. It used all of the power of the target against that person. He also shot it, when everyone had their backs turned.
Also, pis, for another explanation.
Preacher?
So, when has God Spawn, done anything, and I mean anything that has come close to LT?
Hell the Cosmic Mother is only in charge of ONE universe. Nobody in the Image Universe has feats comparable.
How about we use Galactus as a standard right now.
When have any of them destroyed countless galaxies?
When has anyone even destroyed a city?
Just because it's name has something to do with biblical God, doesn't mean it is above everyone in other companies.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The cloth would be on backwards, the three faces would have swirly eyes, and there would be stars over his head. LT would be saying: "Duhhh....look at the pretty silver surfers flying around....." 😆 😆 😈It's a sad day for a godlike entity when they get punked by Mr. Fantastic. 😆 😂 😆 😛
😆 😱 ...sweet answer,Trickster.
Originally posted by bigbran
Have you ever heard about pis? That should answer your whole post...So, um... you think a Celstial (that was made out of Eternity meditating), is more powerful that LT?
Pis.No, the only, ONLY reason Korvac survived was because Death was helping him out behind the scenes. She saved him, after LT shot one blow, so LT just sealed off the universe.
Wait, when has the IG been below Eternity? I remember it punking the shit out of Eternity twice. Also back in that time, it also punked most of the abstracts before Warlock was about to fight LT. LT snapped his fingers and remade everything that was destroyed (Eternity, Celestials, Galactus, etc). He also made the IG obselete after.
How is this mentioned along the lines of, "sad feats"?Reed Richards spent 30 years builing that machine. It used all of the power of the target against that person. He also shot it, when everyone had their backs turned.
Also, pis, for another explanation.Preacher?
So, when has God Spawn, done anything, and I mean anything that has come close to LT?
Hell the Cosmic Mother is only in charge of ONE universe. Nobody in the Image Universe has feats comparable.
How about we use Galactus as a standard right now.
When have any of them destroyed countless galaxies?
When has anyone even destroyed a city?Just because it's name has something to do with biblical God, doesn't mean it is above everyone in other companies.
I agree. Merry Xmas.
On the NON-Canon Last Planet Standing:
Reed Richard builds a Super Canon that took him 20 years to build
It's designed to harness a being's own power against them.
Now...when the combined power of all these cosmics including LT joined together.
They plotted in erasing Galactus from the Multi-verse.
All that power combined...plus the blast from Reed's super canon directly into that concentration of power...created a feedback of cosmic proportions that blew back everyone into other universes.
This story was Non-Canon,
and it was LT's own power in combination with the other Cosmics that were there and Reed's Super Canon that blasted LT and Cosmics into other dimensions.
On the Korvac issue back in 1982, which was a "What IF" btw:
Korvac was not the mastermind of this issue, machinations far beyond even his scope were at work in helping him survive LT's assault.
This is the big moment of surprise and disappointment for all who thought Korvac was more powerful than LT.
Let's do it.
First ALL the positive showings of the issue, then I'll post the rediculousness of a What if comic.
First:
Korvac Absorbs ALL the power of these SIX cosmics, he had already absorbed Galactus's world ship, that gave him instant near-omnipotent power.
Korvac absorbs Galactus's world ship.
LT penetrates Korvacs barrier to blow up the sun in this universe.
LT vaporizes a quarter of that solar system and Korvac survives,
LT caught by surprise by this, decides to leave this universe and seal Korvac in it.
It would seem from that last scan that LT couldn't handle Korvac, so he fled, sealed the Universe behind him and left that universe to whatever fate awaited it.
The Surprise:
It was Death that protected Korvac from LT, from annihilation.
Death was Korvac's unbidden ally-Death was Korvac's unwanted master.
"The Eons-Old Stalemate between Eternity and ME has ENDED.
By MY MACHINATIONS, the UNIVERSE shall be MINE"
"DEATH--Korvac's Unbidden ALLY....
"DEATH--Korvac's UNWANTED MASTER"
Death manipulated all this, no wonder Korvac survived LT's punishment, Death who is the master of mortality and immortality, did not allow Korvac to die along with the earth.
Why?
Because Death wanted to kill Eternity and Death knew it could get Korvac to retrieve the Ultimate Nullifier to destroy Eternity, this was Death's plan all along.
Apparently even Death was unable to help Korvac withstand the UN though.
continues in the next post...
Now the reasons why we shouldn't use What If's in debates even if it includes LT:
Korvac with ALL his power, can't read a Celestial mind,
Korvac CANNOT resurrect just anyone, only someone he kills. Yet he's "omnipotent", LOL.
Korvac fears an Armada of beings that are coming to battle him from all over this universe, but he can kill and absorb some of the most powerful beings in the universe.
This is crap, with all his power he should be able to wipe this army out of existence.
Korvac absorbs every being on this earth to battle this armada.
He becomes so powerful he can sit on planet earth, like if it's a workout ball, but he's still going to rely on the Ultimate Nullifier to destroy this armada along with the universe.
Watcher breaks through Korvac's barrier like nothing, and this is after he absorbed every being on Earth, Galactus's Ship, a few Cosmics and even the visiting Celestials.
Korvac needs the Ultimate Nullifier to destroy an armada of Mortals,
nonsense,
but it's a What If,
so why complain.
On the Protege garbage:
The BIGGEST PIS in Cosmological history.
PLEASE READ CAREFULLY, before any of you confuse yourselves with these Scans.
"My short answer to this issue is that it is illogical, poorly written nonsense that one should ignore, It contradicts far too much of what is known and accepted about the characters to be taken seriously. But since this defense is open to the retort that perhaps everything else is wrong and these issues are right, let us instead look at the claims and implications of what is said. Let us examine what one would have to accept if one took everything in these two issues on face value.
First of all, Protege claims not just to be the new Living Tribunal, but the new One Above All (GOTG 49, last page); that is, Protege is God.
If he were indeed now God, what are we to make of Celestial's restraining him by throwing an energy blanket over his head? Can a Celestial muzzle God? And how does the energy blanket restrain this new OAA? By allowing him "to see nothing of what transpires." Yes, that's right, the new supreme being of the multiverse is taken down by not being able to see the ends of his feet.
But wait, we don't have to commit to such nonsense, because we are told that the LT was clandestinely drawing on the Amulet of Aggamotto (not the Eye, not the Orb, but the Amulet) in order to restrain Protege. In conclusion, therefore: Protege becomes TOAA, but is restrained by a Celestial energy hood that cuts off his sight and an amulet enhanced Living Tribunal.
To preserve my sanity I ignore the whole mess. If pressed to give an explanation I would say this: there is a history of mortal beings taking on vast powers and erroneously believing they are omnipotent (Doom in Secret Wars 1, Beyonder in Secret Wars 3, Warlock and Thanos in Infinity Gauntlet.)
Perhaps Protege believes he is omnipotent, but because he cannot even sense what is happening after having a hood thrown over his head, clearly his Cosmic Awareness is still paltry if not non-existent. Clearly he has not absorbed the powers of the LT, perhaps he has absorbed an iota of an iota. Therefore, in conclusion, we are not seeing a Celestial restraining someone who is more powerful than the LT, let alone TOAA"
Originally posted by Mr Master
On the Protege garbage:The BIGGEST PIS in Cosmological history.
PLEASE READ CAREFULLY, before any of you confuse yourselves with these Scans.
"My short answer to this issue is that it is illogical, poorly written nonsense that one should ignore, It contradicts far too much of what is known and accepted about the characters to be taken seriously. But since this defense is open to the retort that perhaps everything else is wrong and these issues are right, let us instead look at the claims and implications of what is said. Let us examine what one would have to accept if one took everything in these two issues on face value.
First of all, Protege claims not just to be the new Living Tribunal, but the new One Above All (GOTG 49, last page); that is, Protege is God.
If he were indeed now God, what are we to make of Celestial's restraining him by throwing an energy blanket over his head? Can a Celestial muzzle God? And how does the energy blanket restrain this new OAA? By allowing him "to see nothing of what transpires." Yes, that's right, the new supreme being of the multiverse is taken down by not being able to see the ends of his feet.
But wait, we don't have to commit to such nonsense, because we are told that the LT was clandestinely drawing on the Amulet of Aggamotto (not the Eye, not the Orb, but the Amulet) in order to restrain Protege. In conclusion, therefore: Protege becomes TOAA, but is restrained by a Celestial energy hood that cuts off his sight and an amulet enhanced Living Tribunal.
To preserve my sanity I ignore the whole mess. If pressed to give an explanation I would say this: there is a history of mortal beings taking on vast powers and erroneously believing they are omnipotent (Doom in Secret Wars 1, Beyonder in Secret Wars 3, Warlock and Thanos in Infinity Gauntlet.)
Perhaps Protege believes he is omnipotent, but because he cannot even sense what is happening after having a hood thrown over his head, clearly his Cosmic Awareness is still paltry if not non-existent. Clearly he has not absorbed the powers of the LT, perhaps he has absorbed an iota of an iota. Therefore, in conclusion, we are not seeing a Celestial restraining someone who is more powerful than the LT, let alone TOAA"
Again, I marvel at the truth u speak. Having read comics for over twenty years, u are the man. Happy Holidays, friend
why you keep bringing that up mr masters you dont have no damn proof, at all, if that was proof then your saying death is above LT, so your just proving yourself wrong about LT being the strongest next to TOAA, oh and to let you know, death has been owned by dr strange, and the grandmaster your proof is not that great mine stacks up better to it.
Originally posted by JuntaiIt wasn't 616...
I'm pretty sure Last Planet Standing wasn't 616 continuity. Perhaps another Earth, as it wasn't written as a what if, afaik, but it certainly doesn't fit well into 616's continuity. Especially in accordinance to when it came out. Amidst Civil War and Annihilation.
Originally posted by Mider999No, it proves that she had the power to save Korvac from behind the scenes, when LT gave him an attack that was meant to kill him. HIM, not him as an immortal, but Korvac, at the power level he was at.
why you keep bringing that up mr masters you dont have no damn proof, at all, if that was proof then your saying death is above LT, so your just proving yourself wrong about LT being the strongest next to TOAA, oh and to let you know, death has been owned by dr strange, and the grandmaster your proof is not that great mine stacks up better to it.
Do you really think that Death could stand up to LT, face to face?
Do you think if Death teamed up with Korvac, with LT right there, that he couldn't wipe them out with a bigger attack?
She acted behind the scenes.
