Originally posted by WrathfulDwarfAll Reed's gun did was send the Abstracts hurling through various realities by using their own powers against them, it didn't kill the Abstracts like some people were saying:
O M G....did this event REALLY happen?Richards defeats LT? (lost for words)
Reed Richard builds a Super Canon that took him 20 years to build
when the combined power of all these cosmics/abstracts including LT joined together, they plotted to erase Galactus from existance:
All that power combined...plus the blast from Reed's super canon directly into that concentration of power...created a feedback of cosmic proportions that blew back everyone into other realities.
Originally posted by leonidasWell, remember that the Abstracts/Cosmics were going to completely erase Galactus from all existance (all Multiverses). So since Big G is necessary for cosmic balance, I'm sure it would have taken immense power and control to wipe out Galactus without upsetting the balance.
the fact that reed's canon was able to affect them at all is indictment enough, not to mention it was about to take lt + all the others to eliminate galactus.how can anyone believe this was anything OTHER than an lt m-body that was banished by reed . . .?
never the less, I do agree that it was an LT M Body, because the true LT should have been able to snap his fingers to erase Big G.
Originally posted by leonidas
the fact that reed's canon was able to affect them at all is indictment enough, not to mention it was about to take lt + all the others to eliminate galactus.how can anyone believe this was anything OTHER than an lt m-body that was banished by reed . . .?
What i don't get is that fact that L.T. is apparently Omniscient as well as Omnipotent, surely he new what Reed was going to do to him ? Knowing the small amounts of philosophy that i do, I really really find it hard to understand how anyone can survive methodically analysing this cosmic crap. I feel my brain bleeding, just reading some of these scans. 'Gods' should not be in comics, unless written by Alan Moore or Niel Gaiman or Mike Carey. Its as simple as that !!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Galan007
Well, remember that the Abstracts/Cosmics were going to completely erase Galactus from all existance (all Multiverses). So since Big G is necessary for cosmic balance, I'm sure it would have taken immense power and control to wipe out Galactus without upsetting the balance.never the less, I do agree that it was an LT M Body, because the true LT should have been able to snap his fingers to erase Big G.
Do u think the true Living Tribunal is more powerful than the Heart of the Infinite?
Originally posted by guy222
Do u think the true Living Tribunal is more powerful than the Heart of the Infinite?
it's actually quite impossible to say. i think galen is still of the opinion that the hotu absorbed the multiverse in THE END. even if that IS true, there is some evidence it STILL wouldn't have been enough to absorb lt in his totality -- lt is also claimed by some to be supreme in the OMNIVERSE. (not a position i personally ascribe to . . .)
so . . .
if it WAS the totality of lt that the hotu absorbed (a fact i wholly disagree with as well -- i think it was an m-body along with the eternity and infinity m-bodies that were absorbed and only that particular UNIVERSE was absorbed) does that mean the REST of the omniverse was WITHOUT an lt for a time? ie: when lt was absorbed did the hotu sort of . . . 'suck lt out' of all the other 'multiverses' as well . . .? 😕
Originally posted by leonidas
if it WAS the totality of lt that the hotu absorbed (a fact i wholly disagree with as well -- i think it was an m-body along with the eternity and infinity m-bodies that were absorbed and only that particular UNIVERSE was absorbed) does that mean the REST of the omniverse was WITHOUT an lt for a time? ie: when lt was absorbed did the hotu sort of . . . 'suck lt out' of all the other 'multiverses' as well . . .? 😕
Or maybe the writer wasn't so 'knowledgable', and unfortunately as sad as some of the members of Kmc, who seem to know the up most inner 'Theology' of the Marvel universe.
TRASNLATION : 'badwriting'
The reason why Reed was able to do anything to LT, is because Last Planet Standing was NON-CANON in every sense of the word.
Not an alternate Universe or any exceptable Universe whatsoever, it was simply non-canon.
So the writer can make any garbage up, and publish it.
LT has never in his history of appearances, (and I have all of them), been categorized as an M-body of lesser power.
No where On Panel is the Living Tribunal ever been accused of being an M-body, that represents part of him.
There is only ONE LT, and he exists simultaneously in all Multi-verses.
No such thing as an LT M-body that comes in fractions On Panel.
Originally posted by leonidasOr, cosmic jobbing is more in order...
the fact that reed's canon was able to affect them at all is indictment enough, not to mention it was about to take lt + all the others to eliminate galactus.how can anyone believe this was anything OTHER than an lt m-body that was banished by reed . . .?
Everyone jobs at one point. You can't just claim it as an M-body when things go wrong.
It was probably the real LT (not convinced about this whole M-body idea), and basically, the whole story was LT written horribly.
Same with Reed (not about his super-canon), but why would Reed even think about attacking the second most powerful being? It just doesn't seem to be in character...
