tyrant vs odin, zeus

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus5 pages

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
@Rage

If it were up to me, no herald would be busting planets; in particular I would have hit Supes with the nerf bat long long ago...

I remember an issue of the Fantastic Four where Terrax (Classic Terrax) used his power over earth and rock to levitate a large piece of New York into LEO (Low Earth Orbit; if memory serves me correctly); this is a tremendous feat IMHO...

This is the type of feat I firmly believe a High Herald should be capable of when using his/her/its power to its limit...

See we have a problem with the power levels here in comics as they currently exist:

High Heralds bust planets...
Skyfathers bust galaxies...
So does this mean that Trans Tier characters should bust Solar Systems? Logic dictates that they should going with what the characters above and below them can do...
No major problem at this point though, so lets continue...

Skyfathers bust Galaxies...
Cube Beings can warp an entire universe...
So where does this place Elder Gods like Gaea and Set? Should they be busting Galactic Clusters? IMHO, they sure as hell shouldnt; going by the trend we have here they should, but lets continue as I am nearing my point...

Cube Beings can warp an entire universe...
So where does this place Abstracts and High End (Semi Abstract) Cosmic characters like Galactus and Celestials? Abstracts, by definition, represent a significant portion of the universe...so are we to believe that Cube Beings exceed the power of any Abstract or High End Cosmic? Going by feats they do...

And if Elder Gods are to be capable of busting Galactic Clusters, then what can Abstract and High End Cosmic characters do? Bust entire universes when thier power is only a portion of the universe itself?

As you can see, things fall apart and stop making logical sense with the current system as it is...

In my minds eye this is all wrong; because of the "Superman Inflation Effect" writers have gone way over board with the feats some of these various characters are able to pull off...and so we now have characters performing ridiculous feats that far exceed what they logically should be able to do.

In my minds eye it should go like this:

Street Level: Can beat up common thugs...
Enhanced: Can go crazy and start blowing up cars and wrecking buildings...
Heralds: Can destroy/manipulate matter/energy on the scale of a small moon; Phobos for example...
Trans: Can destroy/manipulate matter/energy on the scale of a large moon; Earths moon for example...
Skyfather: Capable of destroying/manipulating matter/energy on a planetary scale; Earth for example...
Elder God: Capable of destroying/manipulating matter/energy on a solar mass scale; Our Sun for example...
Cube Being: Can reality warp multiple solar systems or a small pocket dimension at will...
High End Cosmics/Abstracts: Can bust galaxies; the greatest of these can bust galactic clusters...
God Tier: Can wreck havok on a universal scale; the lowest can destroy a universe, but not all at once, the highest of these can bust an entire universe all at once...

That is how it would go if I were in charge; as it is at the moment, things are far too inconsistent at times...and there often seems to be no direction or blueprint as to how character power level should be rated.

I guess you're entitled to your opinion but I disagree with your takes. At least if we go by character's portrayed on a good day.

Already the collteral damage of Galactus vs. Tyrant would wreck Odin and Zeus... Odin and Zeus would just be that... a collateral damage of Galactus and Tyrant first fight.

Team wins but it aint easy.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
@Rage

If it were up to me, no herald would be busting planets; in particular I would have hit Supes with the nerf bat long long ago...

I remember an issue of the Fantastic Four where Terrax (Classic Terrax) used his power over earth and rock to levitate a large piece of New York into LEO (Low Earth Orbit; if memory serves me correctly); this is a tremendous feat IMHO...

This is the type of feat I firmly believe a High Herald should be capable of when using his/her/its power to its limit...

See we have a problem with the power levels here in comics as they currently exist:

High Heralds bust planets...
Skyfathers bust galaxies...
So does this mean that Trans Tier characters should bust Solar Systems? Logic dictates that they should going with what the characters above and below them can do...
No major problem at this point though, so lets continue...

Skyfathers bust Galaxies...
Cube Beings can warp an entire universe...
So where does this place Elder Gods like Gaea and Set? Should they be busting Galactic Clusters? IMHO, they sure as hell shouldnt; going by the trend we have here they should, but lets continue as I am nearing my point...

Cube Beings can warp an entire universe...
So where does this place Abstracts and High End (Semi Abstract) Cosmic characters like Galactus and Celestials? Abstracts, by definition, represent a significant portion of the universe...so are we to believe that Cube Beings exceed the power of any Abstract or High End Cosmic? Going by feats they do...

And if Elder Gods are to be capable of busting Galactic Clusters, then what can Abstract and High End Cosmic characters do? Bust entire universes when thier power is only a portion of the universe itself?

As you can see, things fall apart and stop making logical sense with the current system as it is...

In my minds eye this is all wrong; because of the "Superman Inflation Effect" writers have gone way over board with the feats some of these various characters are able to pull off...and so we now have characters performing ridiculous feats that far exceed what they logically should be able to do.

In my minds eye it should go like this:

Street Level: Can beat up common thugs...
Enhanced: Can go crazy and start blowing up cars and wrecking buildings...
Heralds: Can destroy/manipulate matter/energy on the scale of a small moon; Phobos for example...
Trans: Can destroy/manipulate matter/energy on the scale of a large moon; Earths moon for example...
Skyfather: Capable of destroying/manipulating matter/energy on a planetary scale; Earth for example...
Elder God: Capable of destroying/manipulating matter/energy on a solar mass scale; Our Sun for example...
Cube Being: Can reality warp multiple solar systems or a small pocket dimension at will...
High End Cosmics/Abstracts: Can bust galaxies; the greatest of these can bust galactic clusters...
God Tier: Can wreck havok on a universal scale; the lowest can destroy a universe, but not all at once, the highest of these can bust an entire universe all at once...

That is how it would go if I were in charge; as it is at the moment, things are far too inconsistent at times...and there often seems to be no direction or blueprint as to how character power level should be rated.

This is beautiful and well thought out. I agree 100%. The inflation effect happens to compete with other characters (especially from other companies). But it creates an illogical system.
Only skyfathers should lay waste to a planet (not necessarily the pulverizing type of way)

Tyrant loses. Odin alone would be a decent match for him, Zeus takes them over the top. If Thanos fought on Tyrant's team, I believe that they could win. That is if Thanos took on Zeus, if not it would be much closer than Tyrant trying to solo these guys.

Originally posted by Stoic
Tyrant loses. Odin alone would be a decent match for him

No he wouldn't. He wouldn't be a decent match at all for Tyrant. Not even close.

Originally posted by Xplosive
No he wouldn't. He wouldn't be a decent match at all for Tyrant. Not even close.

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Yeah, god forbid Odin does as well as Thanos. Lol.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yeah, god forbid Odin does as well as Thanos. Lol.
Thanos never fought full power Tyrant.

Tyrant wins.