1 hit if he couldnt just fly right through it. her field would be energy and dont for even a second think she has better energy control than him. he could just release a city destroying blast and kill her. if they're in the city he'd still do it because he could wish them all back to life with the dragonballs
Originally posted by chickenlover98
well im just usin teh numbers given in what ive seen. i clearly remember them being very weak and having numbers sufficently under 5000. considering that destroys a moon and that they're "power level" goes over amillion im assuming he can easily blow up planets. please correct me if im wrong soljer
As far as the numbers go, you're absolutely right. The last 'official' number given in the manga, if I recall correctly is Trunks hiding his true power at '5.'
However, the last accurate one was Frieza claiming his power was over a million. However, there is no indication of whether power levels are linear, exponential, or logarithmic.
The difference between five thousand and a million could be enormous, while the difference between a million and a hundred million could be infinitesimal.
Alternately, the difference between five thousand and a million could be equal to the difference between a million and a million one hundred - meaning in the buu saga, their power levels had only increased a few hundred points, but that the curve at that threshold was vastly different.
There is no indication of anything. It's all supposition. For example, Master Roshi destroyed the moon in Dragonball. In Dragonball Z (after training AFTER destroying the moon...) his power level is revealed to be like 139 or so.
So, with a 139 power level, he destroyed the moon. However, even Frieza couldn't destroy the planet namek with a power level that was ten thousand times higher.
For a better example of the non linear-ness and supposition, note that even in Dragonball, the speed of fights was, at times, too fast for sight.
However, only at times. As has been pointed out, as late as the Buu saga, or the Cell saga, the characters could still be seen fighting, and only moved fast enough to be invisible SOME of the time.
Did they get faster? Damn straight they did. Is it quantifiable? Hell no.
In the VERY first chapter of Dragonball (not even Z), Goku lifted a car without too much trouble. A million power increases later, he considers ten tons to be 'impossible.' Again, non linear and nothing but supposition.
What DO we know? Kid buu could casually destroy a planet. Therefore, anyone with a comparable or superior ability in Ki SHOULD be able to do similarly. The list isn't too large - SSJ3 Goku, SSJ3 Gotenks, Chou Gohan, the Super Buus, Vegito. These are the only real characters that should be capable of casual planet destruction. Even Cell Saga, Goku/Cell had to charge their power to develop that sort of ability.
Thusly, the very strongest in the series can one-shot planets.
However, Superman has taken attacks that would obliterate galaxies - not planets. He's demonstrated fighting at speeds that ARE quantifiable, and ARE quantifiably far superior to the speeds that DBZ characters can be proven to fight at.
Superman could move the ten tons that Goku deemed 'impossible' by batting his eyelashes.
DBZ was cool back in the day. It's a fairly lame manga with no real story, no real character development...but...a shit load of fighting. It's shonen (I think that's what it's called... 'little boy manga.'😉 It's good to just shut off your brain and marvel at some of the things they do.
However, no matter how much you may like DBZ, no matter how much you may dislike Superman, it is very ignorant of you to cherry pick whatever you like and make an entirely invalid argument from it.
Superman beats Goku. He beats SSJ3 Goku. He beats SSJ2 Vegito - the strongest character shown in the original manga.
Could he beat every single character in the DBZ universe all potara-fused into a single being? No idea - any kind of guesses at such a beings power are just that. Supposition. Guesses. Bullshit.
Can he beat any character that Toriyama ever drew? Absolutely.
I always here that Superman is far stronger in comic versions then he is in shows like Superman: TAS and the Justice League. However, based on what I know of Superman, I would say that SSJ3 Goku would be able to take him on at the very least. Also, Goku's instant transmisiion allows him to move faster than the speed of light if I'm not mistaken; so that has to count for something 😉 .
Originally posted by chickenlover98'
soljer. all i can say is thank you. no screaming dissing or idiotic rants. that is a very thought out post. i may have my beliefs about what would happen and what wouldnt however. thanks to you i have a model of how i should try and post now.i wont post to much in this until i get more evidence
Finally... 😛 Don't take this the wrong way but good luck finding evidence, DBZ has been over for years one reason no DBZ character will surpass superman is he's just been around so long and they keep coming up with new feats in each new issue.
Originally posted by ensatsu-ken
I always here that Superman is far stronger in comic versions then he is in shows like Superman: TAS and the Justice League. However, based on what I know of Superman, I would say that SSJ3 Goku would be able to take him on at the very least. Also, Goku's instant transmisiion allows him to move faster than the speed of light if I'm not mistaken; so that has to count for something 😉 .
It is instant but he still has to think to use it and Superman is way faster than the speed of thought.