My Episode III prophecy....

a renegade jedi is ofcourse not evil! look at qgj

i'm partial on Yoda returning to dagobah after being deffeated

who said anything about being defeated?

The only one I can stand to think of defeating Yoda ( and that too grudgingly) is Darth Sidious. That's it.

I've always wondered what's the difference between a dark jedi and a sith. I mean ... if you're a dark jedi ... doesn't that make u a sith ? Isn't that what a sith lord basically is ? - A dark jedi ?

No, not at all. The Sith are a definitive organisation; you aren't a Sith unless you belong to it. And just going to the Dark Side does not, of course, make you a Sith.

Technically speaking the Jedi now think Dooku is a Dark Jedi, because they don't think he is a Sith but they know he is a Jedi that has fallen to the Dark Side. Dark Jedi is not a literal term, of course, because they aren't Jedi at all; it is just a colloquialism,

why don't the jedi think dooku is a sith, yoda says that he senses the dark side in him, didn't ob1 say something similar to vader. dark jedi's don't exist, there just something that was invented in EU land and a bandwagon that fans jump on.
Jedi's don't practice the dark side, the sith do, jedi's only practice the light side, there is no grey side between sith and jedi. one or the other.

He's a political idealist, not a murderer!

(great line!)

No-one is claiming a grey area. But all that is needed foe a Jedi to fall is for him to embrace his emotions and join the Dark Side. This would NOT make him a Sith, any more than Anakin was a Jedi before QGJ found him. You do actually have to join the organisation!

Yoda knows Dooku has fallen to the Dark Side but NO-ONE has made out he is therefore a Sith. As far as they are concerned the identifity of the Sith is still unknown.

That therefore makes Dooku, in the eyes of the Jedi, a Dark 'Jedi'.

What was Mara Jade?

A weird EU thingy. Based on the EU 'revolving door' policy where people seem to be happily able to flick bewtween the Light and Dark sides like return tickets were freely available.

so reviewing what has been said:

dooku´s thought to be a dark jedi by the council.

the council doesn´t know exactly how to recognize identify or know the sith from other people. they just have no idea???? dont they have a sith holocron?

and well

jedis = knights who are mastered in the force and belong to its light side. example: yoda , windu, luke, obi wan.

renegade jedi = is a jedi who aparts himself partially or completely from the jedi council . 1/2 qui gon jinn, dooku was thought to be a renegade jedi before yoda vs dooku fight.

dark jedi (fallen jedi) = a jedi who has been embraced and consumed by the dark side of the force. but he doesn´t have to fight for or against any organization or person. he/she is just fallen. kinda renegade. example: on the councils eyes: dooku after yoda vs dooku fight.

sith lord = a knight who is mastered in the force and belongs to its darkside. example: all the darths.

note: dark jedi could mean nothing, coz people state that each word contradicts the other. so many people prefer to call them fallen jedi. dark jedi would sound,for some people, as funny as light sith.

Originally posted by jedi fernando
dont they have a sith holocron?

i thought i saw scans of the official aotc something book, where they show everything designed fo aotc .

could well be TF.N in the humor section they had a holocron in that one

No canonical reference ever made to holocrons; even if there were, how are you meant to identifty Sith by sight?

I always considered a renegade Jedi to be one that did not follow the code, like Qui-Gon. Dooku had actually left the order entirely making him not a Jedi at all.

A Sith Lord doesn't have to have been a Knight.

so how good the council describe dooku when he left the ordeR?

what do you mean a sith lord doesn´t have to be a knight? don´t they have to be trained?

Well, Palpatine was never a Jedi, was he? And I would imagine before the rule of two came in nearly all Sith had never been Knights.

Sadly we are given very little insight to what the Council thought of Dooku leaving the Order.

i know palpatine was never a jedi. but not being jedi doesn´t exactly say he is no knight.

but maul was a sith knight.

i see what u mean by mentioning how with the rule of two they dont have to be knights. but all the sith before were knights, why not the ones with the rule of two?

What makes you think they were ever known as Knights?

they fought didn´t they?