My Episode III prophecy....

Yes indeed; we don't know if there is anything definitive, power-wise, about a Sith at all. They may have access to vast amounts of knowledge and stuff like that but we don;lt know if there is anything special about them.

QGJ's ONLY reason for suspecting Maul as a Sith was that he was trained. There is no such suspicion with Dooku who was trained as a Jedi.

the powers are his lightnings, and in ep I Palpy said those two jedis would be no match for maul, got it wrong though, but anyways from this we must presume the siths are powerfull. Skilled with "dirty" tricks and so.

because they know lightning they are 100% certain sith?
that's odd...

they must be able to recognize/identify a sith while fighting one.

I can think of absolutely NO reason at all to believe that. The Sith is an organisation; unless they wear badges I can't see anything special about being a Sith whick makes them identifiable.

We also have no indication that Lightning is Sith only. It's not as if Obi-Wan said "Blimey, he must be a Sith!" when Dooku did that. And Sidious simply had confidence in Maul's supreme swordfighting, is all. He didn't use ANY tricks at all except his skills! He could just have easily have been a super-skilled Jedi swordsman, like Mace.

It's not canon, of course, but the website agrees with me:

"Dooku escaped, with the Jedi aware of his succumbing to the dark side, but yet still unaware of his Sith allegiance."

I think you will find, for sure, that by episode III they are not treating DOoku as a Sith and will be surprised when they find out he is.

I think you will find, for sure, that by episode III they are not treating DOoku as a Sith and will be surprised when they find out he is.

it's not because you leave the order you are automaticly a sith

"Count Dooku is a political idealist, not a murderer!"

think about it; you have a sith, got split in two ten years ago... at that point (probably after qgj got killed, afterall that was his apprentice that got killed thanks to the republic) he leaves the order.
How can a Jedi that served the good train a sith in the meantime?
Easy: he can't! he can't spend enough time training/teaching Maul to make what he was.

Yes, the idea that Dooku is the apprentice would seem amazingly improbable to them, and the idea of him being the Master impossible because he did not go bad until after Maul died.

This IS the presented scenario. Suspicious or otherwise they have not identified Dooku as a Sith.

Master impossible because he did not go bad until after Maul died.

This IS the presented scenario. Suspicious or otherwise they have not identified Dooku as a Sith.

The thing is, the reason why they wouldn't suspect Dooku being a SITH lord, is because ... he would have to be either the master or the apprentice ... and he couldn't have been the master. He left the Jedi Order only after the death of Darth Maul. And they just find it difficult to accept or imagine, that a force master of Dooku's calibre, could be apprentice to anyone.

All the same, dark side lightening, it seems to me, is a technique known to sith lords; not jedis and not even renegade jedis who may have succumbed to the lure of the dark side. Therefore, it seems to me, that Mace Windu and Yoda, might have more seriously considered the possibility, that Count Dooku might have been recieving training, from a Sith Lord of great power, whose presence they might not be able to sense.

there is no rule that says you can't learn lightning on your own...

and it is still possible that Dooku stayed in shape after leaving the order...

Yes, but upto this last movie, lightening has been associated with the one and only master sith lord ... not even his exceptionally powerful apprentice. Even the concept of a Dark Jedi i.e. a jedi whose using the dark side for selfish purposes, but isn't a bonafide sith lord, has been introduced in the MOVIES only with the last one.

My point is : Generating dark side lightening is an exceptionally technique, that would be known only to hightly skilled SITH lords ... just because you are a jedi fallen to the dark side, does not mean you can master this technique ... unless you are truly a very powerful dark side master ... and you've recieved training from another dark side master, who knows the technique himself.

and what is the exact source?

I would presume that would date back to the earliest times of the sith order, before it broke down, and was considered completely destroyed.

I too have always assumed lightning to be a Sith only thing but AOTC makes me think twice about that exactly because Dooku is not suspected of being a Sith.

And meanwhile I still think the closing scenes in AOTC make it pretty obvious that they do not suspect Dooku as the Sith or it WOULD have been mentioned. Harmax makes out the logical problem about him being a Sith very well. The twist really is that such an old Master was taken as an apprentice.

well, they made a big drama out of the sith in EpI with mentioning it a few times and now they don't talk about it? that means they don't associate him with it.

Looks like the fact that Dooku leave the jedi order after Mauls death is taken for granted. Where does it state that Dooku leaves after MAuls death.

you forgot to mention that his former padawan was killed in action by Maul

it is not my point, I wanna know where it is stated that Dooku left AFTER MAULS death.

I don't know if it says so anywhere. I do seem to recall that Qui-Gon's death had something to do with him leaving. And it seems rather obvious that he left after Maul died... IMHO.