Originally posted by beta ray bob
im sorry but reguarding your "what if heihachi and kazuya werent there"statement: why the hell would hundreds of men be there randomly attacking nightmare not only that but would devil jin not feed off of the evil energy being ommited by soul edge plus dj plus sky plus lazers equals: OMGSPLOSION!!!!
I used that argument in response to Cloud trying to say that DJ would somehow find Heihachi and Kaz, absorb their power, then come back and fight nightmare with heightened powers, so I made a similar argument for Nightmare, I didn't start that line of crap.
And since when can DJ feed on ambient energy, we know Soul Edge can, but no Devil ever has.
Originally posted by beta ray bob
....aaaaaaaaaaand devil jin would rip nightmare limb from limb if he was without souledge
But Nightmare does have Soul Edge, so Moot Point.
Originally posted by beta ray bob
and if devil jin is WAY out of reach and shooting beams of concentrated... who knows what. night mare would eventually wear out
while dj is safe in the air all i can say is OMG NIGHTMARE JUST GOT PWNED LIKE A TIED UP HIPPY NEXT TO ERIC CARTMAN WITH A WEED WHACKER!!!!
Beams arn't much when DJ can't maintain sustained flight, and shooting just one drains him considerably, forcing him to the ground every time... Plus, Nightmare also has distance attacks, like that shokwave.
Just one more thing, I have to echo Trickster's sentiments and say 'Learn to use the edit button'
Originally posted by beta ray bob
would nightmare not tire out first from blocking beam after beam form DJ's eyes?
No, not at all, since Nightmare would pretty much absorb them, or more effectively, dodge them, Jin can only fire them one at a time, each time he fires, he rears back holding his head... that gives ample time for Nightmare to rush DJ and start swinging a sword thats decimated entire armies throughout history.
one more thing, devil is WAY faster than night mare as hea doesn't have to lug a giant sword around, and there is the fact that he can cut freakin trees in half with his eyes, also if you have played dark ressurection and have seen one of devil jin's victory ritual things,
he feckin' force chokes the guy! also let's see nightmare try to block a flying kick from two meters in the air with a sword that he can barely lift!
...aaand tekken is better than soul calibur
No, not at all, since Nightmare would pretty much absorb them, or more effectively, dodge them,
shown Jin can only fire them one at a time, each time he fires, he rears back holding his head...
that gives ample time for Nightmare to rush DJ and start swinging a sword thats decimated entire armies throughout history. [/B]
Also, you have no proof to say DJ would get weared down before Nightmare will. After all, Jin has the Devil Gene...and as far as I'm concerned, has almost shown no sign of weakness up to this point.
And those armies...can easily by killed by DJ...any day of the week...
Damn it! the forum swallowed my reply...
Originally posted by beta ray bob
one more thing, devil is WAY faster than night mare as hea doesn't have to lug a giant sword around, and there is the fact that he can cut freakin trees in half with his eyes, also if you have played dark ressurection and have seen one of devil jin's victory ritual things,
he feckin' force chokes the guy! also let's see nightmare try to block a flying kick from two meters in the air with a sword that he can barely lift!
Heh, yopu don't know SC very well do you... Nightmare swings his sword single handed, and for a sword that sice, he swings it very quickly... Also, if you go back, I said that the Soul Edge imparts vastly powerful Supernatural abilities on it's wielder... One of those is superhuman strength.
Does DJ force cholke during actual combat?... didn'ty think so... looks like a power he can only use on the helpless... and Nightmare is far from helpless.
Originally posted by beta ray bob
...aaand tekken is better than soul calibur
Says you... 🙄
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
When has Nightmare ever absorbed an energy beam that is as powerful as DJ's? Also, when has Nightmare demonstrated the speed that can avoid those attacks, since I don't think he ever did.
Go back and play Soul Blade... the Soul Edge sucked dry a sealed shrine full of demons and evil spirits... the place was infested with evil energy.
you don't pay attention to the fights or the cinematics do you...? this guy was one shotting 6 people in single strikes... besides, in the game, DJ's beams are very easy to evade... duck, sidestep... oh yeah, thats so hard to do with an attack that takes a full second to fire...
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Maybe it's considering it is powerful enough to cut a tower in half, and the part where he's holding his head is bs.
No it's not... fire the beam, standing or flying... he's shaking his head for a good 2 seconds... get your facts straight...
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
What part of Nightmare cannot get anywhere near DJ considering DJ is hundreds; if not, thousands of feet above him do you not understand? Also, wear does it say that Jin's energy beams drain a considerable amount of his energy? As far as everyone knows, those beams do not seem to have an effect on Jin's energy level. Nightmare will get hurt by those beams. He has not demonstrated invulnerability to any kind of damage at all.
If DJ fires while hundres or thousands of feet in the air, then h's going to be hitting the ground hard, since he has to land after every shot... Energy drain arguments are the same above... he recoils so badly that it's an ill advised tactic... as for Nightmare's blocking and evading, it's not invulnerability, but Nightmare has dealt with far worse things than a beam shooting birdman...
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Also, you have no proof to say DJ would get weared down before Nightmare will. After all, Jin has the Devil Gene...and as far as I'm concerned, has almost shown no sign of weakness up to this point.
You have no proof that Nightmare will tire at all... Anoither Soul Edge fact, Supernaturally enhanced durability and stamina... this guy walks across continents, engaging in lethal battles and chopping up landscapes along the way, and the only reason he stopps, is to siphon energy.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
And those armies...can easily by killed by DJ...any day of the week...
Prove it.
Dang double posting... my edit time ran out...
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Forgot to mention that DJ has a healing factor. Any damage that Nightmare might possibly cause DJ would be healed automatically.
Healing factor my ass... the ONLY healing he ever did was during his transformation in T3... thats a one off thing... where else has he EVER healed anything.... I mean for godssake the dude was KOed in T4 by a bunch of soldiers...
And the healing factor in that one instance was not instant, nore was it caused by a demonic blade leaving enormous slash marks with just a slight clip of the blade... any full hit on Jin will be a leathal blow, we're talking lost limbs, decapitation and severed torso's here.... lets see him heal from that...
Geeze... anyone would think you where talking about Wolverine......
Go back and play Soul Blade... the Soul Edge sucked dry a sealed shrine full of demons and evil spirits... the place was infested with evil energy.
DJ in fact can absorb other people's power since canonically, Kazuya has shown that he has the ability to do so, and that is a result of having the Devil Gene. Jin is pretty much the same considering he possesses the Devil Gene as well, and even though his ending is not canonical, it states what would have happened had he won against Jinpachi.
Definite proof that people with the Devil Gene can absorb other people's powers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-AbuvpFFzM
you don't pay attention to the fights or the cinematics do you...? this guy was one shotting 6 people in single strikes...
besides, in the game, DJ's beams are very easy to evade... duck, sidestep... oh yeah, thats so hard to do with an attack that takes a full second to fire...
No it's not... fire the beam, standing or flying... he's shaking his head for a good 2 seconds... get your facts straight...
If DJ fires while hundres or thousands of feet in the air, then h's going to be hitting the ground hard, since he has to land after every shot...
Energy drain arguments are the same above... he recoils so badly that it's an ill advised tactic...
as for Nightmare's blocking and evading, it's not invulnerability,
but Nightmare has dealt with far worse things than a beam shooting birdman...
You have no proof that Nightmare will tire at all...
Another Soul Edge fact, Supernaturally enhanced durability and stamina... this guy walks across continents, engaging in lethal battles and chopping up landscapes along the way, and the only reason he stopps, is to siphon energy.
Prove it.
Jacks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Humans in armor
Healing factor my ass... the ONLY healing he ever did was during his transformation in T3...thats a one off thing... where else has he EVER healed anything....
I mean for godssake the dude was KOed in T4 by a bunch of soldiers...
And the healing factor in that one instance was not instant,
nore was it caused by a demonic blade leaving enormous slash marks with just a slight clip of the blade...
any full hit on Jin will be a leathal blow, we're talking lost limbs, decapitation and severed torso's here.... lets see him heal from that...
Geeze... anyone would think you where talking about Wolverine......