Originally posted by Cloud_VII
That's dormant energy. That has nothing to do with DJ's energy beams. Do you think Nightmare can absorb any kind of energy? A Ki attack from Goku? Spawns necroplasm? Or how about Necrid's weapon made of foreign energy? Do not even say he can because I know that's bs.
Since when is devouring a shrine full of active demons considered Dormant energy? And I never said that Nightmare absorbs the beams, I said he blocks them while absorbing Jin's ambient devil power.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
DJ in fact can absorb other people's power since canonically, Kazuya has shown that he has the ability to do so, and that is a result of having the Devil Gene. Jin is pretty much the same considering he possesses the Devil Gene as well, and even though his ending is not canonical, it states what would have happened had he won against Jinpachi.Definite proof that people with the Devil Gene can absorb other people's powers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-AbuvpFFzM
Wrong, that prologue never said that he absorbed anything, nor did the Epilogue.... that showed that Kazuya can exert some influence over his other half (The half of the Devil that Jin inherited from Kazuya), that does not prove that the Devils have general absorbtion power.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Yes I actually do. That feat is really pathetic. What makes you think Devil couldn't to that? I know for a fact a group of Jacks are stronger, faster, and more durable than a bunch of humans in suits of armor. Guess what? Heihachi was single stricking them to bits, and he managed to lose to Jin. Just imagine how he would have done against DJ.
Uh hun... Nightmare was smashing upwards of 6 men at a time in comparison to Heihachi and Kaz's one each... and klets not forget that the Soul Calibur world is set in a time when soldiers where far stronger than normal men of our time, wearing 60KG plus armour and wielding all sorts of weapons, plus they are trained to kill with their weapons. Jacs arn't that superior. especially those ones that where designed as kamikaze soldiers.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Yeah if you knew, the reason why it's capable of being dodged is because he wasn't made to be cheap. He has one where he aims a bit towards the ground and it happens instantly as opposed to the one where he hits the opponent in the face.
He only uses that one on downed opponents, hows DJ going to knock him down? and that particular beam does pathetic damage compared with the other two... Oh, and he can't use that one in the air. Try again...
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Yes it is...get your facts straight and watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7pMiIoCVMo
Again, your reffering to the one he uses on downed opponent, and since DJ ain't knocking nightmare down without closing the gap, and as soon as DJ is inm range, he's dead courtasy of that huge sword.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
How about giving examples when he ever did?
In the game... whenever he took to the sky and fired the beam, he landed on his knees and was stunned for a good 2 to 3 seconds... play the game dude...
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
In your mind I would assume.
Play the damn game... fire either of his two main beams... if this is beyond you, then you shouldn't be arguing in this debate.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
I agree it's something he can't do.
Don't go taking what I say out of context, dodging beams is easy, and although the beams are unblockable in Tekken, Tekkn doesn't have weapons.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
You pretty much have no idea who Devil Jin is then.
Now your assuming, I made that sting at DJ because of the way you'r overrating him. Dude... Inferno was a much tougher opponent that DJ or Jinpachi.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Did I say he would? And he obviously will get tired fighting other opponents. He is not invulnerable to damage nor does he have everlasting endurance, so he will tire at some point.
You said how do I prove that DJ will tire before Nightmare will, and I asked you to prove that Nightmare will tire at all, since as far as I know, the only things to stop him, where acts of PIS and plot device, Example: the Yuga items and Soul Calibur, Sigfried struggling from within, and raphael piercing Soul Edge's core during that struggle. However... Nightmare, even after crossing VAST distances, deserts, forests, mountains... (Three continents worth, Europe, Africa, Asia), fighting as many opponents as he can along the way, and yet he never stopped, and never slept. thats as close to everlasting endurance as you can get, and you thing DJ will outlast him?! 😆
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
I'm sure with the Devil Gene, one has access to superhuman strength and durability. Devil Jin's power can effortlessly turn an entire forest into a barren landscape. Bullets don't affect him and he doesn't even wear armor like Nightmare does. He also took an explosion right in the face and wasn't scratched.
What explosion? and bullets did penetrate his skin... guess what that means, the sword is going through him just as easily as anyone else. And while the Devil gene does grant some supernatural powers (Only a fool'd deny that), It's nowhere near the level of Soul Edge.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Here I'll prove it:Jacks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Humans in armor
Thats not proof... thats A>B>C logic, thats not admissable
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
All that matters is that he did it at least one time, since it proves that he has that power. Also, he was shown doing it in the Tekken 6 preview.
Has he healed any serious wounds? has he survived being hacked into peices? can he survive his energy and soul being devoured?... No? well then he'd better be alot better than Nightmare in other areas, because his endurance just won't outmatch the kind of damage Nightmare will dish out.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
That was Jin. Let's see how well Siegfried does against those.
dude, the guy resisted sleeping for ages we're talking weeks on end, he was afraid of becoming Nightmare again.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
It was actually. If not, it was just about.
It took some time..., anyways, it doesn't matter. Inless Jin is like Hideo Gamma from Ninja Scroll and is able to reattach lost body parts, Jin's healing factor os just not going to cut it
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
The only way I see Nightmare doing that is if he could fly, which I know he can't.
Jin can't stay in the air forever, once he lands, either after firing a beam, or tiring from running, Nightmare will be waiting.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Let's see if Nightmare can even land a hit...I seriously doubt that if DJ's beams can cut clean though a tower in a split second, it would not kill Nightmare outright. I have not seen Nightmare take an attack with that level of intensity before.
Heh, you havn't seen siegfried take on Inferno then.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Just because I said DJ has a healing factor? It was proven in more than one cutscene so why should I not bring it up in this argument? You're saying that just because he did it once does not mean he can do it again. That's really funny.
He doesn't do it regularly, and besides, it's moot, see above...
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Also, if Nightmare cannot break through metal suits of armor, what makes you think he could pierce DJ considering he has durability that is greater than Jack's?
He did break through those suits of armour... easily.... what the hell are you smoking?
Originally posted by beta ray bob
another thing is that if dj could just cut nightmare's arm off then if that hand had souledge in it then would nightmare not just turn back into a motionless corpse?
I would LOVE to see DJ try to pull that off, because DJ will be the one sporting lost limbs.