Nightmare vs. Devil Jin

Started by IceJaw14 pages

My mistake, the light came from the motorcycle but there's nothing suggesting he used a telekinetic attack of any kind, that's just you making shit up.

And I've played every damn Tekken and he has never used or shown any kind telekinetic abilities btw.

Originally posted by beta ray bob
i am not talking a bout force choke, he can explode things with his MIND!!!nuke

No he didn't... he compressed the fuel tank on the bike, and that caused the explosion.

And no, that ending has not been confirmed as Canon, it's more eye candy and should be treated as such.

This thread is STILL GOING ON?! damn....
Cloud, Betaray, Darkstrom and the rest: props for the stamina guys. you are legimate KMC hightiers now. possibly godtiers🙂

anyway the way i see it:
Nighmare has the advantage of souls, the sword (a big one by the way) and lots and lots of power. in fact powerwise, i'd say that nightmare takes this one since he could blast away people by just powering up. DJ couldn't even stave off pussyboy hwoarang!

DJ has the advantage of longrange attacks, flight, and the fact that he uses martial arts....and he's pretty good at it too. Deviil Jin definitely has speed. i'm sure darkstorm and gang you all agree too. aside from that DJ can also use the tele...well whatever it was that he used against Hwoarang in his T5 ending. And people let me give you a headsup regarding tekken endings: they never show a character do something he CANT do. all the feets performed in the endings are something that characters CAN DO be the ending canon or not.
Now the way i see it, if DJ can attack Hworang from that distance and wreck his whole bike up then that means that Nightmare is in for trouble since DJ might as well crush his armor and make a "seigfriend sardine can" out of him. however, Nightmare was capable of blasting all those people away by just powering up so that means that DJ can't use these powers on him since all Nightmare has to do is blast him away like how he did with those people. so that means that "tele...whatever" is so-so for both of them and hence not a decisive factor.
That leaves beams. DSZ mentions how beams aren nothing new for Nightare and DSZ i'll take your word for it buddy since you've corrected me on more than one occassion🙂
nor does that mean much against someone who himself is capable of giving off such explosions of power to blast people away. i'm sure he can use something like that against DJ.
DJ also cannot continuously perform those attacks as like anything else it does take an effort to do. i don't think Jin can go on flying forever shooting those beams since from that Tekken6 ad, it does take a hell of an effort to do and takes a lot out of him. the move itself took him a good few seconds to power up enough to do.

DJ and Nightmare will definitely fight man to man and man-to-man doesn't mean one of them flying around. of course DJ can fly to avoid some attaks but he has to come to groud since he can't go around flying forever (and i already mentioned that he can't do those beam attacks forever either). I see DJ being able to pull it off only once or twice...thrice on the days he hasn't jerked off after landing facefirst into asuka's bust again😉
Nightamre always has the option of:
-avoiding it.
-answering with something similar to how he powered up and blasted those people away

i'm not saying blocking it since though his massive 6foot zwheihander which is sturdy enough and laden with evil energy, however does that mean that DJ can tear down a giant building or tower with his beam but not a sword? probably not.

they willl fight and though Jin does posses enough power to score an upset here, I dont see him lasting against someone as powerful and skilled with a 6foot zhweihander as Nightmare. Nightmare will definitely win....if anything he can atleast wound DJ enough for DJ to opt for an escape.

~The Invincible Sado-sama
P.S. sorry Cloud, but this is just my opinion.

I vote for Devil Jin.

Originally posted by Sado22
This thread is STILL GOING ON?! damn....
Cloud, Betaray, Darkstrom and the rest: props for the stamina guys. you are legimate KMC hightiers now. possibly godtiers🙂

anyway the way i see it:
Nighmare has the advantage of souls, the sword (a big one by the way) and lots and lots of power. in fact powerwise, i'd say that nightmare takes this one since he could blast away people by just powering up. DJ couldn't even stave off pussyboy hwoarang!

DJ has the advantage of longrange attacks, flight, and the fact that he uses martial arts....and he's pretty good at it too. Deviil Jin definitely has speed. i'm sure darkstorm and gang you all agree too. aside from that DJ can also use the tele...well whatever it was that he used against Hwoarang in his T5 ending. And people let me give you a headsup regarding tekken endings: they never show a character do something he CANT do. all the feets performed in the endings are something that characters CAN DO be the ending canon or not.
Now the way i see it, if DJ can attack Hworang from that distance and wreck his whole bike up then that means that Nightmare is in for trouble since DJ might as well crush his armor and make a "seigfriend sardine can" out of him. however, Nightmare was capable of blasting all those people away by just powering up so that means that DJ can't use these powers on him since all Nightmare has to do is blast him away like how he did with those people. so that means that "tele...whatever" is so-so for both of them and hence not a decisive factor.
That leaves beams. DSZ mentions how beams aren nothing new for Nightare and DSZ i'll take your word for it buddy since you've corrected me on more than one occassion🙂
nor does that mean much against someone who himself is capable of giving off such explosions of power to blast people away. i'm sure he can use something like that against DJ.
DJ also cannot continuously perform those attacks as like anything else it does take an effort to do. i don't think Jin can go on flying forever shooting those beams since from that Tekken6 ad, it does take a hell of an effort to do and takes a lot out of him. the move itself took him a good few seconds to power up enough to do.

DJ and Nightmare will definitely fight man to man and man-to-man doesn't mean one of them flying around. of course DJ can fly to avoid some attaks but he has to come to groud since he can't go around flying forever (and i already mentioned that he can't do those beam attacks forever either). I see DJ being able to pull it off only once or twice...thrice on the days he hasn't jerked off after landing facefirst into asuka's bust again😉
Nightamre always has the option of:
-avoiding it.
-answering with something similar to how he powered up and blasted those people away

i'm not saying blocking it since though his massive 6foot zwheihander which is sturdy enough and laden with evil energy, however does that mean that DJ can tear down a giant building or tower with his beam but not a sword? probably not.

they willl fight and though Jin does posses enough power to score an upset here, I dont see him lasting against someone as powerful and skilled with a 6foot zhweihander as Nightmare. Nightmare will definitely win....if anything he can atleast wound DJ enough for DJ to opt for an escape.

~The Invincible Sado-sama
P.S. sorry Cloud, but this is just my opinion.


'Tsok, I agreed about Nightmare winning the match earlier in this thread, since I was corrected about DJ's Tekken 5 ending being not canon. If it wasn't for that, he would have won the match outright. I said it would be a tie because I like both characters equally. As for why I continued, there were some things I did not agree on.

And...

Originally posted by Sado22
thrice on the days he hasn't jerked off after landing facefirst into asuka's bust again😉

YouTube video

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LMAO 😆

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
No he didn't... he compressed the fuel tank on the bike, and that caused the explosion.

And no, that ending has not been confirmed as Canon, it's more eye candy and should be treated as such.

let us not forget what i said earlier about the telekinetic choke a the end of a match, that is telekinesis reguardless of what's in the game, just like asuka can not punch someone THAT hard like in her ending, just cause DJ does not have a sword does not mean he will lose he can take a few slashes from yoshimitsu's katana, which is WAAAAY sharper than a giand fleshy sword

you evidence?

katana are the sharpest swords in HISTORY they can cut someone in half with one stroke

Too bad that the Soul Edge is a demon weapon... Katana or no Katana, On and DJ can't block Yoshi's sword, since all of Yoshi's attacks with the sword in Tekken are unblockable 🙂

Oh, one last thing, you have to prove that Jin can force choke Nightmare while he's fully powered, Jin has only done that kind of attack on an already KOed foe 😉

i was not talking about chiking him i was talking about crushing his armor, and f.y.i. DJ lifts the person up when he chokes them (not suggesting the fact that he should try to choke nightmare, i am merely suggesting that he has telekinetic ability) and by the way i didn't say that he could BLOCK a katana, i said that he can take a lot of hits from one.

Originally posted by beta ray bob
i was not talking about chiking him i was talking about crushing his armor, and f.y.i. DJ lifts the person up when he chokes them (not suggesting the fact that he should try to choke nightmare, i am merely suggesting that he has telekinetic ability) and by the way i didn't say that he could BLOCK a katana, i said that he can take a lot of hits from one.

That armour is a gift from Soul Edge... and you first have to prove that DJ can do that while Nightmare is active. At best DJ can only take one full swing or stab, since the 2nd will kill him.

let's see what nightmare can do right after he swings his sword hmm? he would be open to an attack(did someone say 10 hit combo?)

Dude 10 hit combos are for noobs. D. Jin better not pull that off.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Dude 10 hit combos are for noobs. D. Jin better not pull that off.
ten hit combos are not for noobs, FLOATING is for noobs, besides, devil jin would just use wheel of pain when nightmare is on the ground, from a 10 hit combo, then just use bloody knife-heaven's door, nightmare is dead

Originally posted by beta ray bob
let's see what nightmare can do right after he swings his sword hmm? he would be open to an attack(did someone say 10 hit combo?)

Nightmare's sword swings are very quick for a blade of that size, the only time Jin would have the opprtunity to close that gap would be after a missed Unblockable, and as arule, I never use those with nightmare, unless I've gust done a stunning attack or a GB

Originally posted by beta ray bob
ten hit combos are not for noobs, FLOATING is for noobs, besides, devil jin would just use wheel of pain when nightmare is on the ground, from a 10 hit combo, then just use bloody knife-heaven's door, nightmare is dead

The wheel of pain is SO easy to evade... just sideroll, Oh and one other thing, SC characters can immediately ender a blocking state from being knocked down, just so you know 😛

dude i know what nightmare can do, i have sc3, but devil jin is way faster, then nightmare, besides, you know heihachi's "tekken" weapon from sc2? he can still block with that (even though he still takes SOME damage) can hold off nightmare's sword, and dj has gauntlets.

bare hands>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gauntlets

You do realise t hat you just countermanded your own argument?

And besides, that Heihachi thing in SC2 wasn't official, otherwise Spawn and Link would also be canon, and thats just F'ed up

As forJin blocking th sword, dude, if the Tekken characters can't block Knives and Yoshimitsu's blade attacks, how in the hell do you conclude that they can block a Superpowerd Demon Sword swung by a Psycho Knight?

most of yoshimitsu's sword attacks deal very little damage, and his strong ones do the same amount in sc,(and they are still unblockable)

However, every swipe of the sword is UNBLOCKABLE in Tekken, even with gauntlets, do you know why?

because swords cannot be blocked by flesh and blood, nore peices of plastic or weak metal (or even strong metals in some cases, hence why armored suits where not as effective in blocking attacks as shields or sword to sword parrying. those are temperd and reforged many times to acheive strength and hardness capable of warding off swords or other weapons of th time.)

Lets not forget that the Soul Edge is a demonic weapon that had gained power over 2000 years, is supernaturally enhanced beyond any weapon of the age short of Soul Calibur, It's capable of performing massive feats across the entire planet, and is capable of imparting any enhancements to it's user.