bardock you are an unemotional robot, judging from what you have wrote. you dont know much about suicide. strangelove among other here who claim that suicide is cowardly is simply idiotic. both are an insult to less fortunate people who have felt suicidal.
{dun worry bardock., ur not supposed to understand this}
Originally posted by leonheartmm
bardock you are an unemotional robot, judging from what you have wrote. you dont know much about suicide. strangelove among other here who claim that suicide is cowardly is simply idiotic. both are an insult to less fortunate people who have felt suicidal.{dun worry bardock., ur not supposed to understand this}
Yeah, because I portrayed a deep lack of understanding, not you, haha. Jolly good laugh.
Besides, you moron, that's what I have been saying the whole time you were preoccupied with keeping your thump in your ass. If anyone in here understand what you said, then me, I have been arguing it for the last few pages.
Idiot.
^no, because you lack empathy. and because you do not understand that people do not commit suicide due to choice but due to circumstances forcing them. also, you seem to feal that sumtimes, suicide is preferrable to life. although that MAY be true in the short run, in the long run, it is almost definately wrong other than a few cases.
Originally posted by leonheartmmThat is your wrong believe. Even if I did lack empathy, which you can not know, it doesn't change the fact that it is a choice. There's no talking around that. Everyone knows it is a choice. Every piece of evidence as well as common sense say it is a choice. It...is...a...choice.
^no, because you lack empathy. and because you do not understand that people do not commit suicide due to choice but due to circumstances forcing them. also, you seem to feal that sumtimes, suicide is preferrable to life. although that MAY be true in the short run, in the long run, it is almost definately wrong other than a few cases.
Again, you bring in your personal philosophy as if it was fact. While, since you thought about it with your incredibly tiny brain, it is in fact the opposite of fact. Not fact. Yes, wrong. There are situations where non-existance is preferable for the person. It's not your call, except where it comes down to your suicide, which you please should just go through with now.
Originally posted by Bardock42im guessing that you believe his belief is false 😛 ?
That is your wrong believe. Even if I did lack empathy, which you can not know, it doesn't change the fact that it is a choice. There's no talking around that. Everyone knows it is a choice. Every piece of evidence as well as common sense say it is a choice. It...is...a...choice.Again, you bring in your personal philosophy as if it was fact. While, since you thought about it with your incredibly tiny brain, it is in fact the opposite of fact. Not fact. Yes, wrong. There are situations where non-existance is preferable for the person. It's not your call, except where it comes down to your suicide, which you please should just go through with now.
Originally posted by Bardock42
That is your wrong believe. Even if I did lack empathy, which you can not know, it doesn't change the fact that it is a choice. There's no talking around that. Everyone knows it is a choice. Every piece of evidence as well as common sense say it is a choice. It...is...a...choice.Again, you bring in your personal philosophy as if it was fact. While, since you thought about it with your incredibly tiny brain, it is in fact the opposite of fact. Not fact. Yes, wrong. There are situations where non-existance is preferable for the person. It's not your call, except where it comes down to your suicide, which you please should just go through with now.
i can know by your words if you lack empathy or not. and all youve said there is its a choice/aver1 knows it a choice/IT A CHOICE!
how exactly does that contribute as a logical reply to the argument is posted. i do not bring in personal philosophy as fact. i bring in personal argumentation as a case to prove me personal philosophy as the logically correct stand to take on the subject. my brain may be tiny but atleast it understands that overall, non existance is never preferrable to existance, given that we are defined by the basic concept of existance and of self preservation. not existing, from the perspective of the still exitsing, atleast to me, is nearly infinitely worse or negetive. it is more often than not, due to inability to think rationally that people seem to think that non existance is preferrable to existance. very few understand the actual implication even remotely{again from my TINY point of view}, and attemp suicide knowing that.
i think i tried to commit suicide today, but i didnt die. than the holy ghost came and told me that i was temporarily immortal so there you go 😛
Originally posted by leonheartmm
i can know by your words if you lack empathy or not. and all youve said there is its a choice/aver1 knows it a choice/IT A CHOICE!
how exactly does that contribute as a logical reply to the argument is posted. i do not bring in personal philosophy as fact. i bring in personal argumentation as a case to prove me personal philosophy as the logically correct stand to take on the subject. my brain may be tiny but atleast it understands that overall, non existence is never preferrable to existence, given that we are defined by the basic concept of existence and of self preservation. not existing, from the perspective of the still exitsing, atleast to me, is nearly infinitely worse or negetive. it is more often than not, due to inability to think rationally that people seem to think that non existence is preferrable to existence. very few understand the actual implication even remotely{again from my TINY point of view}, and attemp suicide knowing that.
Do you actually read what people write in their posts? Do people actually have to explain to you the nature of a choice? I for one downright refuse to, because if I have to do that, not only will you come back with a reply full of spelling mistake in which your opinion contains a complete paradox, like the above one. You begin by saying that some are forced to commit suicide, then you go on to explain that sometimes non existence is preferable, the whole nature of personal preference is that there is a definite choice involved, I could get up, but I'd prefer to go back to sleep, for example. You need to actually think about your points before you try and make them, saying that people are forced to commit suicide may sound very nice, and like you yourself are suffering mental anguish, but it's completely illogical, especially when you go on to make a point which completely goes against the previous one.
sigh. perhaps you are not reading. what do you define as choice exactly? because the word is taken in many meanings. if you say that you choose to get up and go have chocolate icecream at a whim oout of desire, as opposed to a million other things you cud have done, than you are responsible for the choice. it is a concios choice and is done out of desire. on the other hand, if you are given a choice of choosing between 100 school kids lives or 200 old people's lives and you MUST choose, than it isnt really the same kind of choice is it. ever heard about forced marriages? now if a woman were to marry of her own free will and CHOICE{as generally said} she wud choose whom to marry and when to marry. as opposed to a woman who is toled by her parents to choose between two men and not refuse the choice altogether. see that is a FORCED choice and only a choice in technical terms{i.e one option is chosen over another} but you can not say that the choice of the arranged marriage woman was done out of desire, and neither can you give responsibility of the choice to the woman who was forced to choose one husband. which is wy i said, that "choice" is being used to represent a wrong concept here as bardock is partially implying{intentionally or otherwise} that the suicidal PREFERS the option of suicide and it is neither good nor bad in that sense. however, there is a WORLD of difference between free choice and forced choice. see the english langage is tricky, in some ways, the word FORCED is considered the opposite of CHOICE. so it can be assumed that when a few options are FORCED on you than you cant really call that a real choice, because were they not FORCED on you, you wud consider an option that wasnt in the forced options given. just like suicidal, if provided with a better enviornment wud generally prefer to live and be happy than end their lives.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
it is more often than not, due to inability to think rationally that people seem to think that non existance is preferrable to existance. very few understand the actual implication even remotely{again from my TINY point of view}, and attemp suicide knowing that.
I think they do know what it means, that's why they commit suicide. Most people who commit suicide would rather not exist than live the life they are living. Nothingness over pain, sorta like that guy from Dogma.
^no. under physical torture, people can very easily, even agree to let out things which can harm their loved ones. even those people who wud willingly kill themselves just to protect those they love. its due to the pain threshholds of the body. they can LITERALLY make u go insane and lose all rational reasoning and thinking and do whatever u can to find releif. you are not THINKING at the time. same with a lot of suicides, the pain is enough to take away rational reasoning. it isnt a concious choice of wanting non existance over existance{cause honestly, how can men even claim to understand what non existance FEALS like. how is not existing at all any better than existing in what little petty way you can. releif shud define the taking away of pain from the CONCIOUS/existing being, and that is what most people conceptualise when they think of killing themselves. sumthing like a sweet slumber/sleep, but what they fail to realise is that not existing wud be vastly different} .