Wonder Woman vs. Jean Grey

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Juggernaut doesn't move at Wonder Woman speeds. If you throw a ball at her she can catch it telekinetically. If you throw a ball at her at ~light speed she gets knocked the f*ck out.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Juggernaut doesn't move at Wonder Woman speeds. If you throw a ball at her she can catch it telekinetically. If you throw a ball at her at ~light speed she gets knocked the f*ck out.

That's true however she her TK shield is already up for this match. And if she increases the density of the particles around her, WW will have an even harder time getting through. Or she could just make a Magneto shield that repels all physical attacks due to it being charged.
Yeah but Juggernaut shield is meant to be unstoppable. His strength is off the charts, stopping his shield should be like getting speed blitzed by a Class 100 speedster.

I meant catching a speedster with telekinesis is gonna be hella hard let alone holding one who can tow a third of the moon. After the wild Sentinel attack it takes Jeany a while to move the rubble off of Emms.

I'd give it to Wondy if she can't use Pheonix.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I meant catching a speedster with telekinesis is gonna be hella hard let alone holding one who can tow a third of the moon. After the wild Sentinel attack it takes Jeany a while to move the rubble off of Emms.

Well Jean's power's tend to fluctuate throughout the years, if we're taking her at her best then her radial tk forcefield should be able to hold Diana. The only problem with that is Diana will have to enter the radius to get caught.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Juggernaut doesn't move at Wonder Woman speeds. If you throw a ball at her she can catch it telekinetically. If you throw a ball at her at ~light speed she gets knocked the f*ck out.

Me love Xmarksthespot. Such a better debater than me.... 😄

If Diana stays out of Jean's field it's a tie. If she enters it, WW loses.

Originally posted by ixie
If Diana stays out of Jean's field it's a tie. If she enters it, WW loses.
What part of knocked the f*ck out don't you get? 😕

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
What part of knocked the f*ck out don't you get? 😕

The part that ignores the fact that Jean can push past the pain and exhaustion. Even after not sleeping for three days she was still able to contain a building exploding. If she felt pain she could take care of that with her TP.

Besides, if WW decides to speedblitz, all Jean needs to do is strike out with her TK. If WW is moving as fast as you say she will, Jean will eventually make contact. Whether she decides to punch her or grab her or whatever at that point is up to her, but she's going to make contact. She can also encase a certain area in a TK field so that WW can't get out and can't get a running startn to achieve these near light speed levels.

BTW, the TPs that WW regularly encounters...Are they speedsters?

Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
The part that ignores the fact that Jean can push past the pain and exhaustion. Even after not sleeping for three days she was still able to contain a building exploding. If she felt pain she could take care of that with her TP.
Building explosion vs multiple cl100, ~lightspeed punches. She'll negate the pain of using her powers by using her powers some more? 🤨
Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
Besides, if WW decides to speedblitz, all Jean needs to do is strike out with her TK. If WW is moving as fast as you say she will, Jean will eventually make contact.
Jean wins by a single random luck strike with her TK... against WW who was punched from the Sun to the Earth...
Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
Whether she decides to punch her or grab her or whatever at that point is up to her, but she's going to make contact.
Because...? She just does?
Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
She can also encase a certain area in a TK field so that WW can't get out and can't get a running startn to achieve these near light speed levels.

BTW, the TPs that WW regularly encounters...Are they speedsters?

I don't know ask Draco. But really I don't see the relevance considering Jean isn't a speedster.

Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
The part that ignores the fact that Jean can push past the pain and exhaustion. Even after not sleeping for three days she was still able to contain a building exploding. If she felt pain she could take care of that with her TP.

Besides, if WW decides to speedblitz, all Jean needs to do is strike out with her TK. If WW is moving as fast as you say she will, Jean will eventually make contact. Whether she decides to punch her or grab her or whatever at that point is up to her, but she's going to make contact. She can also encase a certain area in a TK field so that WW can't get out and can't get a running startn to achieve these near light speed levels.

BTW, the TPs that WW regularly encounters...Are they speedsters?

You don't understand the concept of speedblitz. By the time Jean finishes completing the thought to think "This woman is a speedster" and "I'll use a radius attack!", Diana will already be on her like white on rice and be bashing her shields at all sides with near-Superman strength at tremendous speeds. Her shields are going down.

We also are failing to recognize the verstatility of WW's arsenal. Like a nifty telepathic Invisible Plane and multitude of other weapons such as the Head of Medousa...which would end the battle instantly.

A nifty strategy is to encase herself in the Invisible Plane and become completely undetectable to Jean (even Martian Manhunter was unable to detect Diana in her IP AND it's telepathic prowess managed to knock him out...) thus making her even more impossible to track down.

A practically-invisible (to Jean) woman with superspeed with literal invisiblity? Ouch.

Originally posted by Cosmic Flame

BTW, the TPs that WW regularly encounters...Are they speedsters?

None are speedsters. Some can teleport though.

Her main psychic foes are Doctor Psycho (rivals Martian Manhunter and supercedes Despero in one case), Tri-Maid, Circe and Doctor Cyber.

Jean's field can probably slow WW down a lot even if she's going lightspeed. Its kinda like a diver entering the water. Except that Jean's tk can be infinitely more dense than water. Especially if Jean makes the field repel everything away from her.

Originally posted by coosie
Jean's field can probably slow WW down a lot even if she's going lightspeed. Its kinda like a diver entering the water. Except that Jean's tk can be infinitely more dense than water. Especially if Jean makes the field repel everything away from her.
And dies from suffocation...

Jean is most probably skilled enough to make it so that the air can still pass through like any shield casters can. Jean is very good with her tk.

WW would most likely just hurt herself if she did that so she probably won't.

Jean Grey dies. TK forcefields are a barrier, they don't act like water.

Jean can make her fields solid, or how ever dense she wants it to be. She can also make shields that are purely of telekinetic force that repels things much like a magnetic repulsion.

I'm really not seeing a win for Jean while her shields will be up from the get go. It'll be impossible for her to get a read on Diana before she breaks through the shield.😬

Once inside Jean's field, WW will be forced to slow down leaving WW vulnerable to other tk attacks.