Originally posted by TemplaresThey only really become that once they're outside of the actual Batman and Detective comics titles. Those are still brutally realistic portrayals.
Liked him, REALLY liked him back when he and Batman was streetlevel. BatGOD and especially PIS-Joker pretty much turned me away from the characters. The only good Batman and Joker for me in recent years was Broken City.
Originally posted by Juntai
They only really become that once they're outside of the actual Batman and Detective comics titles. Those are still brutally realistic portrayals.
Yeah but stuff like Prometheus, the Scarebeast, the Red Hood are too superhero-ish for my taste. Im looking for crimenoir-ish and slightly mentally unstable type of Batman like the one in Azarello's piece. I probably would have picked Gotham Central if i had the bucks to spare.
Originally posted by jbsuperbat
this one is pretty tuff but id say the joker wins because of his prep time and he gives batman trouble who is much better than spiderman so joker wins this hands down
Post like these make me wonder if people actually read more then one comic before posting to this board....
For some reason I think Spiderman loses this simply becuase he'll underestimate Joker. Spiderman should be able to rip him to shreds but I can see Spider tying him up but when he gets a little to close Joker has some surprise up his sleeve that spiderman isn't expecting.
And why are people callinig each other morons on a comic book message board? This reminds me of those funny skits on the Simpsons with the groosly overweight and balding "comic book guy" who feels everyone is beneath him but in reality he's the butt of the joke.
Originally posted by meep-meepBut Spidersense would warn him if Joker tried anything
For some reason I think Spiderman loses this simply becuase he'll underestimate Joker. Spiderman should be able to rip him to shreds but I can see Spider tying him up but when he gets a little to close Joker has some surprise up his sleeve that spiderman isn't expecting.And why are people callinig each other morons on a comic book message board? This reminds me of those funny skits on the Simpsons with the groosly overweight and balding "comic book guy" who feels everyone is beneath him but in reality he's the butt of the joke.
Originally posted by Big Sexy
But Spidersense would warn him if Joker tried anything
True...if Joker were to find out about this feature of Spidermans though I see no reason he couldn't figure out a way around it. But if Spiderman were to just suit up and go capture Joker with out either knowing too much about the other, I guess Spiderman would take em.
Originally posted by meep-meep
For some reason I think Spiderman loses this simply becuase he'll underestimate Joker. Spiderman should be able to rip him to shreds but I can see Spider tying him up but when he gets a little to close Joker has some surprise up his sleeve that spiderman isn't expecting.
But that doesn't mean he fights like a retard. Spider-Man remains one of the most experienced heroes in Marvel, and Joker won't give him much trouble, unless huge Plot Devices suddenly show up.
Originally posted by who?-kid
Spider-Man always underestimates his opponent at first. It's part of his nature.But that doesn't mean he fights like a retard. Spider-Man remains one of the most experienced heroes in Marvel, and Joker won't give him much trouble, unless huge Plot Devices suddenly show up.
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its not like spiderman is all powerful for crying out loud joker did manage to hit wonder women with his toxin, and he can probably do the same with spiderman, he did it to solomon grundy and guys like that even luthor, and sersi, spiderman would be running around with a clown face after messing with the joker, joker even put slade down for a while, even had good prep against superman and against all the JLA, people who say joker is not that smart dont know much about him.
Originally posted by Mider
its not like spiderman is all powerful for crying out loud joker did manage to hit wonder women with his toxin, and he can probably do the same with spiderman, he did it to solomon grundy and guys like that even luthor, and sersi, spiderman would be running around with a clown face after messing with the joker, joker even put slade down for a while, even had good prep against superman and against all the JLA, people who say joker is not that smart dont know much about him.
He doesn't know Spider-Man however. Spider-Man is too unpredictable, and is a genius in his own way.
Or did you forget Spider-Man has had his own Joker for years and years : Green Goblin / Hobgoblin. They are the Joker (in a way), only much more powerful. They even knew his secret identity.
Spider-Man beat them all.
So if anybody says that basically the same character (more or less of course !) but without the powers and the knowledge still can beat Spider-Man => I'm not impressed.
how does joker beat spiderman
same way he took slade down for a minute he had two majorly trained ninja's who put slade down while joker escaped
he can use his venom like he did pretty much everyone in the DCU even some pretty bad guys like solomon grundy
he could kidnap his aunt or mary jane or whoever his friends are and do to them what he did to robin
he might do to spidey what he did to hush, put him to sleep then spidey wakes up with a bomb inside him with joker holding the remote
lures spidey int a false sense of security thinking oh well he aint so tough then BAM razor sharp card to the face
even if spidy has the spider sense he isnt someone who moves at light speed that he can just get away from any circomstance.
same way he took slade down for a minute he had two majorly
trained ninja's who put slade down while joker escaped
Wow, that's amazing...really. I can't think of a single person who would do the same thing if they had 2 uber ninja minions hanging around. A feat of tactical ingenuity. 😗
And for the rest of your scenario, the only thing that could work is kidnapping his loved ones or probably killing them. But that would only tick him off as he have when GG tried the same thing **repeatedly**. The others are just assuming spider-man would just forget his Spider-sense and reflexes, stand there like a statue and allow Joker close enough to do it to him.
yeah wow its so funny dude i need to poste it somewhere where everyone can see it then they can laugh till there brains melt out there ears....anyway yeah i think a guy who has punked kid flash, can take anti tank bullets and still get up, jump higher then spiderman, move fast enough to dodge machine gun fire point blank range, evade superman for a time not very long but none the less a time, oh yeah i remeber thats not much of a feat to prepare for someone like that and get him beat down while you run off laughing...........yup no feat at all