Lucifer hits the Gauntlet !!!

Vertigo's Lucifer, most of you know about him already. Check out Draco's Lucifer Respect Thread if you're unfamiliar.

Here's the list: (Not particularly in Heirarchical power order.....just one fight after another...can Lucifer progress to the end? )

1) Charon and Lawbringers from Negation (Crossgen Comics)- Can he singlehandedly defeat the entire Negation Empire?

2) Thanos with Classic IG plus Marvel cosmics- Lucifer enters Marvel Universe 616 where Thanos is God of that Reality. Can Lucifer defeat Thanos who will be allied with Galactus, Chaos and Order, Mistress Death, The Stranger, Love and Hate, and all the Celestials combined?

3) Abraxis with Ultamate Nullifiers Let's say Abraxis at full power with copies of Ultamate Nullifiers at his disposal. Can he delete Lucifer in battle, or will Lucifer come out on top?

4) The Disciple, Zera, Mammon, the Forgotten Ones, Abdiel, and the Man of Miracles- Can Lucifer defeat these entities from Spawn combined?

5) Kali and Urizen - at thier full power, both are above Death. Urizen devours spiritual energy, all kinds of spiritual energy, he has the ability to kill the imagination. Kali is the Goddess of Death and Destruction, the cycle of life and death, no God or Demon has ever beaten her yet. Will Lucifer be the first?

6) Bloodlusted Spectre Spectre is fkn furious and has a bone to pick with Lucifer. Is there any way Lucifer can neutralize Spectre, and if so, how?

7) Combined Forces of Heaven, Hell,and Greeworld- If Lucifer defeats round 4, let's say thier resurrected.....excluding God, Satan, and Urizen.......can Lucifer defeat the combined might of both Heaven and Hell together? This would include Spawn (any age), Angela, all redeemers, all the forgotten ones, Abdiel, The Disciple, Zera, Malebolgia, Mammon etc. Anyone who has ever been a part of any of these three realms !

8) Bloodlusted Micheal Can Lucifer outsmart, defeat, destroy, or surpass his brother in any way?

9) White Pheonix of the Crown - Can he destroy or subdue her?

10) Goddess Dawn with Sword She used this to cut off Ahura Mazda (God's) hand off. With this sword, is Dawn even capable of ending Lucifer, or would her attack be futile?

11)Darkseid with ALE, Parallex, Molecule Man, and Mr. Myx Can Lucifer outsmart and defeat these reality controllers?

12) Saint of Killers Is Lucifer subject to this guy's attacks?

13) The Great Evil Beast- Could Lucifer trick the GEB into defeating itself?

14) Classic Beyonder- Could Lucifer defeat him in ANY way shape or form?

R U FU*IN MADE NO WAY DOUBT HE MAKES IT PAST 2
NOT WITH 1 CELESTIAL THATS 2 MUCH FOR HIM

OR HAS HE SOME SORT OF ULTIMATE POWER I DONT NO ABOUT COZ HE AINT THAT POWERFUL FROM WOT I No

I would give White Pheonix of the Crown in the last place.

I am sure Lucifer wouldn't be able to defeat The Great Evil Beast, Classic Beyonder and White Pheonix of the Crown.

He would defeat all of them except Phoenix of the White Crown, and The Great Evil Beast, and he might get stalled at Michael. The Classic Beyonder showed nothing that Lucifer couldn't do and he could do 10x better.

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Wow.this is one hell of a gauntlet 😄

wheres thanos with hotu?

id say kali and urizen.
if urizen was at full power he could do it by himself. this guy had heven and hell shitting there pants at his weakest.

Hes not getting past 2. Common if it takes place in the marvel universe he has no real authority he gets crushed.

1) Charon and Lawbringers from Negation (Crossgen Comics)- Can he singlehandedly defeat the entire Negation Empire?-although he's an amazingly powerful character he still took 10,000 years to conqure his universe lucifer made his own multiverse

2) Thanos with Classic IG plus Marvel cosmics- Lucifer enters Marvel Universe 616 where Thanos is God of that Reality. Can Lucifer defeat Thanos who will be allied with Galactus, Chaos and Order, Mistress Death, The Stranger, Love and Hate, and all the Celestials combined? lucifer already has power beyond the IG he can make half a multiverse most people say so anyway and the cosmics wouldnt be a hassle for him at all

3) Abraxis with Ultamate Nullifiers Let's say Abraxis at full power with copies of Ultamate Nullifiers at his disposal. Can he delete Lucifer in battle, or will Lucifer come out on top?lucifer is also beyond death you know that endless death showed up and he said you have no claim on me and then she was scared of him killing her

4) The Disciple, Zera, Mammon, the Forgotten Ones, Abdiel, and the Man of Miracles- Can Lucifer defeat these entities from Spawn combined? i dont know about this one man of miricles is close to image gods powers this one is to much just with man of miricles alone

5) Kali and Urizen - at thier full power, both are above Death. Urizen devours spiritual energy, all kinds of spiritual energy, he has the ability to kill the imagination. Kali is the Goddess of Death and Destruction, the cycle of life and death, no God or Demon has ever beaten her yet. Will Lucifer be the first? kali wont be able to kill him death has no claim on him what can she do to him, and urizen well unknown was he at full power when spawn defeated him but he did have all the powers of nature sooooooooo lucifer might lose to this guy......but lucifer once rewrote the rules of the universe just to defeat a guy who was unkillable or something like that the silkman i believe was his name

6) Bloodlusted Spectre Spectre is fkn furious and has a bone to pick with Lucifer. Is there any way Lucifer can neutralize Spectre, and if so, how? lucifer has met the spectre when he was moving the moon spectre said what you doing and lucifer said go bother someone else and spectre went away sad

7) Combined Forces of Heaven, Hell,and Greeworld- If Lucifer defeats round 4, let's say thier resurrected.....excluding God, Satan, and Urizen.......can Lucifer defeat the combined might of both Heaven and Hell together? This would include Spawn (any age), Angela, all redeemers, all the forgotten ones, Abdiel, The Disciple, Zera, Malebolgia, Mammon etc. Anyone who has ever been a part of any of these three realms ! meh this might just be to much for him, can these guys make half a multiverse though but the greenworld is overkill

8) Bloodlusted Micheal Can Lucifer outsmart, defeat, destroy, or surpass his brother in any way? he already has shown to beat him hasnt he only reason he won was cause lucifer was all messed up and the presance was backing him

9) White Pheonix of the Crown - Can he destroy or subdue her? depends, can she make a whole mutliverse by herself, if not she would lose, if she is megaversal like GS said so should lucifer be megaversal as well since he is second in power only to the presance

10) Goddess Dawn with Sword She used this to cut off Ahura Mazda (God's) hand off. With this sword, is Dawn even capable of ending Lucifer, or would her attack be futile?-he can still rewrite reality cant he

11)Darkseid with ALE, Parallex, Molecule Man, and Mr. Myx Can Lucifer outsmart and defeat these reality controllers? the ale defeated a enemy of the source but lucifer treats the source like a nobody, unknown if he would win, parallax he would win against, molecule man he would womp and mr Myx he would smack around

12) Saint of Killers Is Lucifer subject to this guy's attacks? can saint kill immortals he can also ust rewrite reality to make it so that the saints powers are diffrent

13) The Great Evil Beast- Could Lucifer trick the GEB into defeating itself? tricking it unknown is it as smart as the presance if so he would lose but the GEB went away after having a talk with swampthing soooooooo you decide

14) Classic Beyonder- Could Lucifer defeat him in ANY way shape or form? no........nope.............lucifer would go down hard

Kali is outside of creation if Lucifer ever recreates the universe.

since when is she outside of creation? silkman was also older then the universe i think

ill try and check it out so you wont think im full of it and bring back feats

Originally posted by Mider
since when is she outside of creation? silkman was also older then the universe i think

Originally posted by kevdude
He would defeat all of them except Phoenix of the White Crown, and The Great Evil Beast, and he might get stalled at Michael. The Classic Beyonder showed nothing that Lucifer couldn't do and he could do 10x better.

I agree with you except about Classic Beyonder.

Classic Beyonder is wayyy more powerful than Lucifer, he has the power of the comic book writers themselves, and millions of times the power of the marvel multiverse. Living Tribunal couldn't do jack shit to him, even though LT is supposed to be back by The One Above All.

LT lost to reed richards he's a chump

Some of Lucifer's feats:
- Against the Silk Man, an entity that existed before the current universe was created, Lucifer altered the rules that let the Silk Man exist in the current universe so that he was banished from it.
- Survived the "detonation" of Michael when he was killed for the first time. The energy was enough for Lucifer to create a multiverse from it.
- Shaped his universe: formed suns, galaxies, concepts like time, life, and so on.
- Created a soul for a demon as a punishment so that the demon would become a damned soul instead of being extinguised by death.
- Folded the letter of passage through space and time so that it appeared on every world in the original creation.
- His presence destroyed the Mansions of the Silence (a realm where souls that didn't belong to Heaven or Hell went).
- Turned Elaine and her friend Mona into guardian spirits (basically gods for a world without gods).
- Destroyed the Titans who took over the role of God by killing them before they became God.
- Destroyed his duinum, a copy created by the Titans whose touch would cancel them both out.
- Killed Michael while infected by Fenris.
- Killed Fenris.

An additional feat by Michael that I thought was cool was that he maintained Creation after Yahweh left by rewriting Yahweh's name on every atom of creation.

Originally posted by Mider
1) Charon and Lawbringers from Negation (Crossgen Comics)- Can he singlehandedly defeat the entire Negation Empire?-although he's an amazingly powerful character he still took 10,000 years to conqure his universe lucifer made his own multiverse

I agree. Charon is one powerful dude, so are the Lawbringers, they are like Gods themselves, but it did take Charon 10,00 years to take over the universe. But that may also be because he doesn't violate free will. He uses persuation to get followers, plus he took over that universe right after becoming his state of power. Still, I think he loses to Lucifer.

Originally posted by Mider
2) Thanos with Classic IG plus Marvel cosmics- Lucifer enters Marvel Universe 616 where Thanos is God of that Reality. Can Lucifer defeat Thanos who will be allied with Galactus, Chaos and Order, Mistress Death, The Stranger, Love and Hate, and all the Celestials combined? lucifer already has power beyond the IG he can make half a multiverse most people say so anyway and the cosmics wouldnt be a hassle for him at all

If Lucifer can create half a multiverse, then yes that would prove that his creational powers are above IG entirely. But can Lucifer control that multiverse he created as well? Thanos was able to control everything in the MU 616 universe.....

Originally posted by Mider
3) Abraxis with Ultamate Nullifiers Let's say Abraxis at full power with copies of Ultamate Nullifiers at his disposal. Can he delete Lucifer in battle, or will Lucifer come out on top?lucifer is also beyond death you know that endless death showed up and he said you have no claim on me and then she was scared of him killing her

Ultamate Nullifier doesn't kill things, it DELETES them...there's a difference, It's not about death, it's about erasing people and things from existance period. However, i know that one may not be enough to delete Lucifer. But thousands? ehh...im still unsure here.....

Originally posted by Mider
4) The Disciple, Zera, Mammon, the Forgotten Ones, Abdiel, and the Man of Miracles- Can Lucifer defeat these entities from Spawn combined? i dont know about this one man of miricles is close to image gods powers this one is to much just with man of miricles alone

I'm undecided here. The way the Disciple has been hyped, he seems to be on a level of pure strength that may rival the Spectre's or even Micheal's. Zera....omg....she's been murdering the entire host of the Forgotten Ones (a host of high order angels who are like individual Mammons), and Abdiel has a sword that could even slay immortals.......

Originally posted by Mider
5) Kali and Urizen - at thier full power, both are above Death. Urizen devours spiritual energy, all kinds of spiritual energy, he has the ability to kill the imagination. Kali is the Goddess of Death and Destruction, the cycle of life and death, no God or Demon has ever beaten her yet. Will Lucifer be the first? kali wont be able to kill him death has no claim on him what can she do to him, and urizen well unknown was he at full power when spawn defeated him but he did have all the powers of nature sooooooooo lucifer might lose to this guy......but lucifer once rewrote the rules of the universe just to defeat a guy who was unkillable or something like that the silkman i believe was his name

Kali was said to be outside creation. She is superior to the laws of her universe, the same way Second Age Spawn was or the way Thanos is outside the loop of Destiny in Marvel. Rewriting the rules of reality may not affect Kali. So far no God or Demon has defeated Kali, not to mention that she ATE an entire army of demons. She also ate her own husband Shiva, who is also a God himself. She was able to "crush Spawn like a cockroach".....she may have a great chance against Lucifer.

Urizen at full power ...wow......I think he'd take Lucifer down from what we know about the legends of his full power. He's so damn durable is the thing.......and he cannot be killed or deleted from existance....the only way to subdue him would be to defeat him somehow first, and then contain him.......and btw Urizen was NOT at full power when Spawn and Angela defeated him, he was severely depowered since he was JUST released from the Void that he was imprisoned in for millenia. Lucifer is a powerful dude, but he is still a spiritual being. Urizen devours spirits and devours individuality and imagination.

Also there is no way that Lucifer can "trick' Urizen into doing ANYTHING....Urizen is not in the least bit interested of striking deals, or making ANY assossiations...that is why even Hell is afraid of him.

Originally posted by Mider
6) Bloodlusted Spectre Spectre is fkn furious and has a bone to pick with Lucifer. Is there any way Lucifer can neutralize Spectre, and if so, how? lucifer has met the spectre when he was moving the moon spectre said what you doing and lucifer said go bother someone else and spectre went away sad

Okay lol I'll budge here and say I agree. 😆

Originally posted by Mider
7) Combined Forces of Heaven, Hell,and Greeworld- If Lucifer defeats round 4, let's say thier resurrected.....excluding God, Satan, and Urizen.......can Lucifer defeat the combined might of both Heaven and Hell together? This would include Spawn (any age), Angela, all redeemers, all the forgotten ones, Abdiel, The Disciple, Zera, Malebolgia, Mammon etc. Anyone who has ever been a part of any of these three realms ! meh this might just be to much for him, can these guys make half a multiverse though but the greenworld is overkill

Doesn't matter if they can make a multiverse or not. Being able to create to that extant doesn't mean you can also control or destroy that to that extant.

I think Lucifer would lose this.

Originally posted by Mider
8) Bloodlusted Micheal Can Lucifer outsmart, defeat, destroy, or surpass his brother in any way? he already has shown to beat him hasnt he only reason he won was cause lucifer was all messed up and the presance was backing him

So Lucifer can beat Micheal for sure?

Originally posted by Mider
9) White Pheonix of the Crown - Can he destroy or subdue her? depends, can she make a whole mutliverse by herself, if not she would lose, if she is megaversal like GS said so should lucifer be megaversal as well since he is second in power only to the presance

I doubt Lucifer can even touch her. White Pheonix of the Crown is the ultamate creation force. TOAA may just be the moderator over her, it's not even certain if TOAA even created the Marvel Megaverse himself.

Originally posted by Mider
10) Goddess Dawn with Sword She used this to cut off Ahura Mazda (God's) hand off. With this sword, is Dawn even capable of ending Lucifer, or would her attack be futile?-he can still rewrite reality cant he

What happens if Dawn cuts off his head before he can even rewrite the rules of reality? She cut off Ahura Mazda's hand, and he is immortal and nearly invincible. That sword is some strong shit.

Originally posted by Mider
11)Darkseid with ALE, Parallex, Molecule Man, and Mr. Myx Can Lucifer outsmart and defeat these reality controllers? the ale defeated a enemy of the source but lucifer treats the source like a nobody, unknown if he would win, parallax he would win against, molecule man he would womp and mr Myx he would smack around

But Can Darkseid with ALE force Lucifer into submission? this is interesting, because Lucifer is the embodyment of Yahweh's will, and the ALE guarantees control over one's will.......

Originally posted by Mider
12) Saint of Killers Is Lucifer subject to this guy's attacks? can saint kill immortals he can also ust rewrite reality to make it so that the saints powers are diffrent

Not if Saint of Killers kills him first. But who knows......

Originally posted by Mider
13) The Great Evil Beast- Could Lucifer trick the GEB into defeating itself? tricking it unknown is it as smart as the presance if so he would lose but the GEB went away after having a talk with swampthing soooooooo you decide

I'm undecided here.

Originally posted by Mider
14) Classic Beyonder- Could Lucifer defeat him in ANY way shape or form? no........nope.............lucifer would go down hard

I agree 100%

i dont know how you can keep from being deleted but i know that a being who was below eternity became to powerful for the ultimate nullifier, the thing with silkman he also existed outside of this universe but lucifer made is to he had to exist INSIDE and thus he kicked him out and never let him back in. i think he can controll the half he creates he's the one who shapes it the demigoric power only makes the energy lucifer shapes it to his will, i dont know if he can take on the ALE all i know is that he treats the source like a nobody and the ALE had to be given to the being who was the enemy of the source to kill it orion didnt just say hay die and it happend he had to give it to him to kill him, i might be wrong about spectre it depends how much power the presance gives him, and when spectre was rouge he almost took out all heaven and hell but the presance had to stop him personally, against dawn and her sword unknown, did you find out if she has long range attacks?

Originally posted by Mider
LT lost to reed richards he's a chump

😆 Poor LT.