Originally posted by Xplosive
And that is?Am, no. There is no greater or equal to PF. PF power is immeasurable, limitless, absolute.
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/889/uncannyxmen104733md.jpg
2 days more days...hopefully he'll leave Earth and screw with the White Hot Room.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/889/uncannyxmen104733md.jpg2 days more days...hopefully he'll leave Earth and screw with the White Hot Room.
Can't wait.
And Mr Master said thare are others (plural) equal or greater to PF, which is very wrong.
Originally posted by Xplosive
And that is?Am, no. There is no greater or equal to PF. PF power is immeasurable, limitless, absolute.
That is,
:Above the Pheonix Force:
TOAA
Thanos with the Heart of the Infinite
Living Tribunal
Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet
Anyone with the Ultimate Nullifier(but especially Reed Richards)
Atleza 'the child" (probably)
:Equal to Phoenix Force:
Goblin Force
the Fallen
Unicron the "god" not the machine
Multiversal Abstracts of Eternity - Infinity and perhaps Death
Originally posted by Mider
the ultimate nullifier dont work on everyone, and unicron could only eat things, infinity and eternity get replaced by the PF the IG is not stronger then the PF the atlez child can just ancher a universe not make one.
Alot of poeple don't know this but,
The Ultimate Nullifier destroyed and remade the ENTIRE Multiverse in the blink of an eye, I have the scans if you wish.
What can Phoenix do that Reed with the Nullifier can't?
Unicron can only eat universes your right, if this was a battle, that would come in handy, not building but destroying ENTIRE realities.
The Multiversal(not Universal)Abstracts of Eternity and Infinity are just as essential to existence as is the PF, --- replaced?
Magus with the an INCOMPLETE Infinity Gauntlet, negated the power of the Ultimate Nullifier, and once again the UN remade the ENTIRE Multiverse.
Contrary to popular beliefs around here the IG can be used outside the 616 Universe with it's full power. I recently found out this was a fact. During the Infinity War, Magus from an outside reality with an incomplete IG replaced the 616 Universe with a duplicate he made, AND, he had total control of his NEW 616 universe still with out the COMPLETE IG. Warlock with the same Incomplete Gauntlet repaired the situation. I have the scans for that too if you wish.
Atleza is just a child and the full extent of her powers is unknown for now,
I did add (maybe), but still, she anchors our universe without even trying, that says alot for a child that isn't even aware she holds the fate of the 616 universe in her hands.
it came out in X-men the end when a universe ends ALL the abstracts are replaced by the PF even the LT i still dont think that the IG would work on lucifer krona defeated grandmaster when he had the IG, and the ultimate nullifier also didnt work on the living monalith, thats suppose to be her main power is ancher the universe it never said she can do anything else, she can also do spells but thats all i know from reading thanos the end, and i really dont think that all the multiverse died just cause of galactus sounds stupid but maybe it did happen but yeah marvel did a dumb move with that.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Mr. Master do you think that Thanos with IG or Magus with IG can defeat Lucifer ?
Magus was more impressing than Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet evidently.
But no one was able to resist Thanos with the Gauntlet except for the Tribunal.
Magus created a duplicate of the 616 universe and merged it with the original 616 universe, this was done with 5 cosmic cubes. I posted this incorrectly in my previous post.
Reference: Infinity War#4
But he did warp the 616 Universe in his image with the INCOMPLETE Infinity Gauntlet!
Magus turn the Unltimate Nullifier(a MULITIVERSAL Destroying weapon)back on Quasar after Quasar tried to use it on Magus.
Reference: Infinity War#5
Warlock rectified the situation with the same INCOMPLETE Infinity Gauntlet
Reference: Infinity War#6
Ok
Now Lucifer.
I know he can create a Universe under his own power, and apparently that's as far as it goes.
With Michael's assitance he can create a multiverse.
The Ultimate Nullifier can destroy and remake the ENTIRE Multiverse to suit the wielder's wishes.
the Infinity Gauntlet Gauntlet can turn the nullification energies back on the person using the Nullifier.
What does this tell you.
Originally posted by Mider
it came out in X-men the end when a universe ends ALL the abstracts are replaced by the PF even the LT i still dont think that the IG would work on lucifer krona defeated grandmaster when he had the IG, and the ultimate nullifier also didnt work on the living monalith, thats suppose to be her main power is ancher the universe it never said she can do anything else, she can also do spells but thats all i know from reading thanos the end, and i really dont think that all the multiverse died just cause of galactus sounds stupid but maybe it did happen but yeah marvel did a dumb move with that.
I have the END and I've read it thoroughly,
there are SIX issues
your gonna have to point out where you read that PF replaces anyone,
cause my friend,
Phoenix wasn't even mentioned ONCE.
Where did Galactus's name come from? I never mentioned Galactus.
Abraxas killed Knona with a kiss.
Can you also tell me where did Krona defeat Grandmaster with the IG, I would like to read that myself, not just take your or anyone's word for it.
And I also want to know where this Living Monolith story took place, I like to research claims personally.
I find it hard to believe that a weapon that can destroy and remake the Multiverse in the blink of an eye would not be able to affect any being.
well sir im not a comic book library i see things im very selective with what i buy cause and so i do hopefully like to believe people online since i would hope there not just making stuff up and im talking about x-men the end not thanos the end thats where pheonix was said to do that, if you have any questions about that ask galactic storm he usually has scans of everything. and the being who said he was beyond the ultimate nullifier was maelstrom a quasar enemy he says in quasar 24 that the ultimate nullifier would not affect him and i believe in thanos quest thanos tries to blast him with out much effect thus making me believe him. sorry about the living monalith i was confused its maelstrom not the living monalith, and i wasnt talking about galactus in the end saga or whatever your talking about i was talking about him in the abraxas saga its very dumb of marvel to redo the entire MU for the sake of i dont even know why they would do it its just plain dumb galactus is back ok now abraxas is gone ok why remake the multiverse i suppose that its because of the other galacti who died. Even if abraxas killed krona, id like to point out that darkseid said that the IG was useless in his universe and threw it away, or am i wrong?
Originally posted by Mider
i do hopefully like to believe people online since i would hope there not just making stuff up
Oh believe me, people make stuff up online, don't believe everything you here, do your own personal research always on everything, that's the best way to learn anyway, you get the whole story in-depth
Originally posted by Mider
and im talking about x-men the end not thanos the end thats where pheonix was said to do that,
I'll look into that one myself.
Originally posted by Mider
and the being who said he was beyond the ultimate nullifier was maelstrom a quasar enemy he says in quasar 24 that the ultimate nullifier would not affect him and i believe in thanos quest thanos tries to blast him with out much effect
Can't wait to read that.
Originally posted by Mider
its very dumb of marvel to redo the entire MU for the sake of i dont even know why they would do it its just plain dumb galactus is back ok now abraxas is gone ok why remake the multiverse I suppose that its because of the other galacti who died. Even if abraxas killed krona, id like to point out that darkseid said that the IG was useless in his universe and threw it away, or am i wrong?
Actually the story was a bit more complicated than that, it wasn't JUST for the sole purpose of bringing Galactus back, Abraxas had caused damage great across the Multiverse like killing ALL of Reed Richards other selves in every universe, and really, it was the only way to stop Abraxas himself, this is was the MAIN reason to destroy the Multiverse, then remake the Multiverse to set things right.
Originally posted by Mr Master
That is,:Above the Pheonix Force:
TOAA
Thanos with the Heart of the Infinite
Living Tribunal
Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet
Anyone with the Ultimate Nullifier(but especially Reed Richards)
Atleza 'the child" (probably):Equal to Phoenix Force:
Goblin Force
the Fallen
Unicron the "god" not the machine
Multiversal Abstracts of Eternity - Infinity and perhaps Death
Applaud to you, man. Wow.
You even gave LT who was shown to be kneeling before Phoenix (when Stranger wanted to use the power of PF through Jean and than Eternity showed what would happen). No one can do shit to PF, with exception of TOAA (and that only counts if TOAA is trully Almighty God).
Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet is nothing to PF and would be no threat (actully IG also exist because of PF).
How cany ouf give Ultimate Nullifier beyond PF (Ultimate Nullifier)?
Abtracts you mentioned exist because of PF.
Mr Master, do you know what PF is? Do you know who White Crown of the Phoenix is?
Originally posted by Mider
if Lucifer is second to the presance shouldnt he be megaversal since the PF is megaversal he should since he can make his own multiverse
Lucifer was never shown to be able to make Multiverse on his own. He needs Michael to do that. Phoenix on the other hand, is a different story.
Originally posted by XplosiveIn a different sense as well. Pheonix is the spark of Creation, not the creator. Micheal and Lucifer if applied to this equation .. .are the creators of the spark and the will to bring creation into existance. Micheal and Lucifer proceeded everything else. God decided to have a creation, and thus he created Micheal and Lucifer to build it.
Lucifer was never shown to be able to make Multiverse on his own. He needs Michael to do that. Phoenix on the other hand, is a different story.
