Wolverine's claws vs. SKIN!!!!!!

Originally posted by Brutacus
ISecond for the one that stated that it was possible to knock ben out by hitting a pressure point on his arm is wrong there is no pressure point in the arm that would be able to put you out.
Atleast not at the point where ben was cut or hit.

Originally posted by Grimm22
First off this is ULTIMATE Wolverine and Thing we're talking about 😐

Not Enemy of the State.

Doesn't matter anyway as Ultimate Wolverine has kicked Thing to the curb in the X-Men/ff crossover hard enough to knock 5 pounds of rock chips off his face.

well iff you look close he hit him on his upper arm and there is no pressure point there.

Second you're not out cold yet.

And no I don't follow karate or sports that involve presure points, I practised judo, kickboksing, and normal boksing now I don't have the time and I get train from my instructor in jail, because I do need to know how to defend myself there.

And second only went by some info my dad gave me he been practising Tai Chi for over 20 years so I do think he knows what he talks about, he might had a brain attack 5 years ago so he is totally out of the martial arts, but I'm sure he still knows where he talks about.

I ment to say was he was hitting him on his upper arm where the deltiod is not placed

Originally posted by riceroost

Claremont clearly states that the armor cannot stand up to adamantium claws.

Why does Colossus fear the claws you ask? That's simple. In UXM ann. #6 Colossus himself was under the influence of Rachael Van Helsing and does not remember that he took Wolverines claws. So basically he does not remember it. Kinda like me saying I wouldn't bang a fat chick but when I get drunk and banged a fat chick I wouldn't remember it.

Bottom line is you can't show a scan of Wolverine doing any real damage to Colossus.

Hopes and dreams.

Originally posted by riceroost
Why are we talking about Ultimate U???

Doesn't matter anyway as Ultimate Wolverine has kicked Thing to the curb in the X-Men/ff crossover hard enough to knock 5 pounds of rock chips off his face.

THATS WHAT WAS BEING DEBATED STUPID!! 😠

Wolverine's kick should have done crap to Ben ❌

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Your wrong. He states that organic steel is strong but no match for pure adamantium. Nothing was said about claws. Adamantium is stronger than Colossus. We know this.

Why does Colossus fear the claws you ask? That's simple. In UXM ann. #6 Colossus himself was under the influence of Rachael Van Helsing and does not remember that he took Wolverines claws. So basically he does not remember it. Kinda like me saying I wouldn't bang a fat chick but when I get drunk and banged a fat chick I wouldn't remember it.

Bottom line is you can't show a scan of Wolverine doing any real damage to Colossus.

Hopes and dreams.

Wolverine has nothing on Colossus ❌

Originally posted by riceroost
Wolverine has floored Hulk several times before. He has also knocked over Wendigo. Both are larger than Ben. Why is it so hard to believe Wolverine could knock down a smaller character in Thing?

Thing was also flinging around something the size of a subway car when Wolverine hit him. It's not out of the question to assume he may have been a bit off balance. He was also pissed that Wolverine had hurt Torch. Which means he was probably overexerting himself, which leads to bad balance.

no we're reffering to what wolverine did to thing in ULTIMATES.. yknow when thing was off balance.. grimm INSISTS that no such proof exists to indicate thing was indeed off balance.. I gave grimm THIS reply...

http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=offbalance4vr.jpg

and to this day he continues to declare no proof exists that thing was off balance.. 🙄

Originally posted by Soleran
Your point, mine is the force is FAR greater with artillery and still if it hits the force is distributed throught the area of impact. Wanna show me otherwise?

artillery shells explode on impact... even considering the material that shells are made of they don't hold even the slightest of candles to admantium.. things that might be crushed against the exterior of things hide wouldn't be if they were admantium forged.. it's like throwing a paper plane at a tree and expecting it not the crumble... but a knife can go straight through...

the point is: if artillery shells don't go THROUGH ben then they're not comparible to admantium claws.. since adamantium claws DO go through him.

Originally posted by jinzin
no we're reffering to what wolverine did to thing in ULTIMATES.. yknow when thing was off balance.. grimm INSISTS that no such proof exists to indicate thing was indeed off balance.. I gave grimm THIS reply...

http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=offbalance4vr.jpg

and to this day he continues to declare no proof exists that thing was off balance.. 🙄

Ok so maybe he was "off balance" 😒

Still, a kick shouldnt have pushed Ben back or anything like that ❌

Seriously he got hit by a truck and he didnt feel it. It didnt throw him off balance.

Now your going to tell me that even if Ben is off balance that Wolveirne's kick is more powerful than a freakin truck 🤨

Originally posted by Brutacus
I was wondering how sharp are wolverine's claws???

Second for the one that stated that it was possible to knock ben out by hitting a pressure point on his arm is wrong there is no pressure point in the arm that would be able to put you out.
Atleast not at the point where ben was cut or hit.

he wasn't knocked out.. 😕

Originally posted by Grimm22
Ok so maybe he was "off balance" 😒

Still, a kick shouldnt have pushed Ben back or anything like that ❌

Seriously he got hit by a truck and he didnt feel it. It didnt throw him off balance.

Now your going to tell me that even if Ben is off balance that Wolveirne's kick is more powerful than a freakin truck 🤨

was ben on one foot on his tip toes throwing his momentum in the direction akin to the force of the truck when he got hit by it? post a pic and we can further discuss this matter.. until then you're only making yourself look foolish by either ignoring common sense, calling out PIS on one thing but letting another instance of PIS stand cause it favors you, or you're comparing two completely different events.. post a pic... then we talk.

Originally posted by Matty1112
Thing, Hulk, Sasquatch, Emma Frost, and the one that i always have trouble with: Colossus!!!!!!!

I would like to Clear this up. Wolverine claws are the most durable metal on the planet.

1. Thing-It has been stated before that Wolverine as all ready cut Thing. HE sliced part of his face off. You forget that thing is kind of like a rock, much harder but the same.

2. Hulk-Wolverine tries really hard when stabbing Hulk. Most of the time he scratches him, but usually lunges to pierce him. (Saquatch he can stab easily)

3. Emma Frost-WOlverine can cut emma all though it is diamond, he would take a bit becuase diamond is a really hard substance. Emma would just own him even before.

4. Colossus-Wolverine actually could pierce him if he gets around him. Colossus has the abilty to rotate the density of his armor to make it stronger. When he fights wolverine he most likely redirects it the armor. WOlverine can pierce it if he had the right momentum.

No actually Captain Americas shield is http://www.medinnus.com/winghead/shield_faq.html

Originally posted by riceroost
You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. There is a major nerve cluster in the deltoid. DD and Batman are quite fond of hitting it with basic finger thrusts and spear hand strikes. If you hit the cluster your arm is basically dead. You obviously know nothing about anatomy or Martial Arts....unless you take Kim's Karate, in which case you dont qualify anyway.

Euh did I say that there was no pressure point in the arm read you idiot I said there is no pressure point in the arm that will be able to knock you out.

Damn man read!!!

Originally posted by jinzin
artillery shells explode on impact... even considering the material that shells are made of they don't hold even the slightest of candles to admantium.. things that might be crushed against the exterior of things hide wouldn't be if they were admantium forged.. it's like throwing a paper plane at a tree and expecting it not the crumble... but a knife can go straight through...

the point is: if artillery shells don't go THROUGH ben then they're not comparible to admantium claws.. since adamantium claws DO go through him.

you are speculating entirely, next. The force behind the impact is FAR greater then what Wolverine can generate.

Originally posted by Soleran
you are speculating entirely, next. The force behind the impact is FAR greater then what Wolverine can generate.

it's like you're ignoring the counter points to your argument.. what's so hard to understand about this?

it has nothing to do with speculation...

rockets hit on the outside of thing.
rockets explode on the outside of thing.
rockets do damage to the OUTSIDE of thing.

wolverine's claws can go straight through the outside of thing and mess up his insides...

Like I said before.. you can't compare rockets to claws.. one because the claws are FARRRRRRRRRRRR more durable than a rocket, and two because the claws have the edge of being able to cut straight through into thing and doing damage to his more vulnerable insides; they are just that sharp.. rockets are not that sharp... and are not meant to pierce anyways.. they're meant to explode on impact.. hence the damage by rockets is inflicted to the outside of thing's body rather than the inside.. HENCE; INCOMPARABLE...

Originally posted by jinzin
was ben on one foot on his tip toes throwing his momentum in the direction akin to the force of the truck when he got hit by it? post a pic and we can further discuss this matter.. until then you're only making yourself look foolish by either ignoring common sense, calling out PIS on one thing but letting another instance of PIS stand cause it favors you, or you're comparing two completely different events.. post a pic... then we talk.

Dude look at the pic again 🤨

He's kicking Ben in the face and its hurting him, that and he jumped behind Ben, so that would have to mean Wolverine jumped behind Ben then jumped in front of him and kicked Ben. No freakin' way that makes sense ❌

Originally posted by Grimm22
Dude look at the pic again 🤨

He's kicking Ben in the face and its hurting him, that and he jumped behind Ben, so that would have to mean Wolverine jumped behind Ben then jumped in front of him and kicked Ben. No freakin' way that makes sense ❌

Originally posted by snoopdogg
What are you guys arguing about? I didn't read this whole thread.

Some crappy writing from the Ultimate X4 crossover 🙄

Originally posted by Grimm22
Some crappy writing from the Ultimate X4 crossover 🙄