Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
How in the world would you know if I get the joke or not. How would you know how long I've been watchin' Borat and Ali G. How in the world would you know that I wasn't planing on being Borat this Halloween (got the voice down pat and everything).You've just made a baseless assumption not knowing a single thing about me or my sense of humour...
Welll here's an assumption about you (and others)...
- You've just found out about Ali G (and Borat) maybe in the past couple years and you think it's some cool new thing that not a lot of people (outside of the UK) know about, so you're all behind the buzz to show how "down" you are.
- You can't get enough of this humour (where unsuspecting people fall victim to a stupid reporter)...though you might've been getting kinda bored of it if you've been watching for over 5 years like myself.
- You think it would be the uncoolest thing in the world to pan something that EVERYONE finds funny...heaven forbind, people might think you're a prude!
- Oh and here's one more assumption...you probably have very little in the department of values or ethics, considering you haven't at all taken into account what I've posted.
...gosh I'm good! 😉
Soory, I'm being harsh only to prove a point. You shouldn't make assumptions. But one thing is true...if there were any real Ali G fans in here they'd know exactly the kind of bandwagon jumper types like you guys I'm talking about.
I'm not making baseless assumptions that you don't get the joke. Your posts make it self-evident. He's playing a parody, dear boy. A parody.
Getting the joke is one thing...admitting that some of it is starting to get unfunny or offensive is another.
You're still implying that you think you KNOW if I get the joke or not...because somehow it is soooo self evident just because I criticised it.
Wow.
The thing is, I'm confident enough in my capacty to understand humour (and of all types), that if I feel like it I can just not give a crap and actually stand there and say...
"you know what, Borat is actually getting more and more offensive now. All you people who are just starting to get into this Borat stuff, well for me it's gettin' kinda dry...and at the end of the day, it's a lot about pissing people off, which isn't cool any way you slice it."
So, I can tell YOU are exactly the kind of person that couldn't do that...and probably doesn't even get what I'm saying.
...gosh am I ever good! 😉 😉 😉
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Getting the joke is one thing...admitting that some of it is starting to get unfunny or offensive is another.You're still implying that you think you KNOW if I get the joke or not...because somehow it is soooo self evident just because I criticised it.
Wow.
The thing is, I'm confident enough in my capacty to understand humour (and of all types), that if I feel like it I can just not give a crap and actually stand there and say...
"you know what, Borat is actually getting more and more offensive now. All you people who are just starting to get into this Borat stuff, well for me it's gettin' kinda dry...and at the end of the day, it's a lot about pissing people off, which isn't cool any way you slice it."
So, I can tell YOU are exactly the kind of person that couldn't do that...and probably doesn't even get what I'm saying.
...gosh am I ever good! 😉 😉 😉
You're still not getting it, dear boy. The people who he is 'pissing off' are exactly the kind of ignorant, bigoted - and in some cases, pretentious - people who deserve his ridicule. The fact that they don't realise that this is happening is hilarious. Furthermore, the fact that you don't realise this probably puts you in one of those categories yourself.
So, no...I guess you ain't that good. *smiley face* *smiley face* *smiley face*
So an average antique shop owner is a pretentious ignorant bigot that should realize what is happening when a bunch of stuff in his store is crashing to the ground? Rrrrright...
Dude, I'm so above it it's not even funny. I honestly don't think you have a clue of what this conversation we're having is really about. You're just a dude who thinks it's "cool" to like Borat and figures that anyone saying anything against him just doesn't get it. That is SOOO shallow.
You know what you remind me of?
TANGENT: There's a part at the end of the first Limp Bizkit record where that dude from that old MTV show "The Farm" is on there with Durst, and they're going on about how "plastic" music is these days, and how stuff like Britney sucks.
IMO that guy is the biggest dork for doing that and I've often made fun of him...and the reason is any peron who knows what's up knows all too well that Britney sucks and the current state of music. He's trying to be cool...but it's so uncool. Purposely getting a track on there just to make fun of Britney and pop music?...it's like: Britney sucks? Really? Wow you're cool!
Well, you're like that guy. You don't see how someone can make fun of something that's "cool" (because it probably means that they don't get what's cool in the first place).
And judging by how much of a smart ass you're being DEAR BOY, I can see why you're impervious to the kinds of insults his humour is throwing around.
Sorry bud...you got nothin' on me.
😉 😉 😉😉 😉 😉😉 😉
And in case you didn't really read what I've posted, I did say...
..."he has done some funny stuff in the past", that I was "planning on being Borat this Halloween", and that I've been watching him for "5 years"...(yes, I know that's a shock to most of you that he's been around for that long)..."5 years".
Somehow you haven't been able to figure out that all of the above = I get Borat.
...I'm good!!! I am!!!
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
So an average antique shop owner is a pretentious ignorant bigot that should realize what is happening when a bunch of stuff in his store is crashing to the ground? Rrrrright...
Ahh, the ol' exception that proves the rule! Thanks for making it, so I don't have to. Sometimes, I guess you are...quite good.
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Dude, I'm so above it it's not even funny. I honestly don't think you have a clue of what this conversation we're having is really about. You're just a dude who thinks it's "cool" to like Borat and figures that anyone saying anything against him just doesn't get it. That is SOOO shallow.
You really are a weird one. How does liking someone who is popular make me cool? I fail to grasp the connection seeing as I am no longer 14 years old. Either you are, or it sounds like you've got some security issues there, ol' boy.
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
You know what you remind me of?TANGENT: There's a part at the end of the first Limp Bizkit record where that dude from that old MTV show "The Farm" is on there with Durst, and they're going on about how "plastic" music is these days, and how stuff like Britney sucks.
IMO that guy is the biggest dork for doing that and I've often made fun of him...and the reason is any peron who knows what's up knows all too well that Britney sucks and the current state of music. He's trying to be cool...but it's so uncool. Purposely getting a track on there just to make fun of Britney and pop music?...it's like: Britney sucks? Really? Wow you're cool!
Well, you're like that guy. You don't see how someone can make fun of something that's "cool" (because it probably means that they don't get what's cool in the first place).
And judging by how much of a smart ass you're being DEAR BOY, I can see why you're impervious to the kinds of insults his humour is throwing around.
Does the tangent carry on throughout your whole post? It did, didn't it?
One more thing, are you the guy saying that people like Borat to be cool, while at the same time shouting out about how you're dressing up as the man himself for Halloween?
Yeah, you definitely don't get it.
I do, so that makes me...cool? Right?
Hahaha, look at this guy, complaining that you're making assumptions about him, then going on and making assumptions about you "jumping on the bandwagon".
Also funny how each one of his posts is a barely concealed advertisement of "I knew about Borat before the other people, everyone else just jumped on some bandwagon, BUT NOT ME, I"M THE REAL DEAL".
Then he complains about Borat making fun of ugly piggish feminisists and other "offensive" things. Hahaha, like that's a BAD thing.
Ah, good times.
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Getting the joke is one thing...admitting that some of it is starting to get unfunny or offensive is another.You're still implying that you think you KNOW if I get the joke or not...because somehow it is soooo self evident just because I criticised it.
Wow.
The thing is, I'm confident enough in my capacty to understand humour (and of all types), that if I feel like it I can just not give a crap and actually stand there and say...
"you know what, Borat is actually getting more and more offensive now. All you people who are just starting to get into this Borat stuff, well for me it's gettin' kinda dry...and at the end of the day, it's a lot about pissing people off, which isn't cool any way you slice it."
So, I can tell YOU are exactly the kind of person that couldn't do that...and probably doesn't even get what I'm saying.
...gosh am I ever good! 😉 😉 😉
i can see what your saying...its probably more of a marketing issue than anything
the american markets needs the humour to be "in your face" in order for it to have an impact...the perfect example being the conversion of the office from the highly subtle UK version to the more obvious "*** joke" style humour of the US version
thats essentially what they've done with Borat...
also if it were similar to what its been in the past then it wouldn't be anything we haven't seen before in the UK episodes...most of the jokes i've seen in the clips for are all rehashed and made more extreme....
Apparently, 'Bruno' is the next Sacha Baron Cohen character to get the movie treatment...
Originally posted by BackFire
Hahaha, look at this guy, complaining that you're making assumptions about him, then going on and making assumptions about you "jumping on the bandwagon".
oops, I guess that was actually kinda dumb.
Originally posted by BackFire
Also funny how each one of his posts is a barely concealed advertisement of "I knew about Borat before the other people, everyone else just jumped on some bandwagon, BUT NOT ME, I"M THE REAL DEAL".
Yeah. Me and that Sasha Baren Cohen dude are like BEST FRIENDS. I'd be the FIRST person t get his jokes!! I have Borat posters all over my room! 5 years man...5 YEARS!!
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
People like him are great. If they weren't around, then who would Borat pick on? Cool people like us? Don't think so...
I can't believe you just said you guys are too cool for Borat to pick on...
Wow! You just DID prove my point with the whole Britney hating thing (that you said didn't apply to you). It's like "no I'm cool. I'm down. I get it. No one can make fun of me because I'd get the joke right away...no really I would!!!"
I'm trying not to be rude, but you guys are kinda hurtin'. You really don't understand the level this conversation is on...sorry.
Actually no...you know what...You guys ARE cool. Borat wouldn't play jokes on you! I'm (I've known about Borat even before it came out) not cool. I deserve to get picked on by Borat!!!
...man am I ever good. Oh yeah. Oooooh yeah! No seriously...I'm gooood!!!!!
Originally posted by jaden101
i can see what your saying...its probably more of a marketing issue than anythingthe american markets needs the humour to be "in your face" in order for it to have an impact...the perfect example being the conversion of the office from the highly subtle UK version to the more obvious "*** joke" style humour of the US version
thats essentially what they've done with Borat...
also if it were similar to what its been in the past then it wouldn't be anything we haven't seen before in the UK episodes...most of the jokes i've seen in the clips for are all rehashed and made more extreme....
Dude you're so on it. Thank you for having a brain. That's EXACTLY what I'm talking about.
Sure enough, I doubt some other people in here have picked up on the whole "extreme" thing you're mentioning and probably don't even know what you're talking about.
...And it's exactly why I've pointed out...they think it's BORAT...and BORAT couldn't be bad in any way. They don't allow themselves to be critical of something that "you're supposed to get"...or else then you're the butt of the joke. So transparent.
...it's confidence thing.
...it's like being cool about being cool.
...it's like watching "Ghost World" and laughing along at all the people that the 2 girls make fun of...but then actually realizing the movie's also making fun of them (which is something I'm guessing some certain dudes in here wouldn't get).
...it's kinda like that.
...Do you think I've posted enough examples to prove how cool I actually am?
I'm cool, that's right.
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
I can't believe you just said you guys are too cool for Borat to pick on...Wow! You just DID prove my point with the whole Britney hating thing (that you said didn't apply to you). It's like "no I'm cool. I'm down. I get it. No one can make fun of me because I'd get the joke right away...no really I would!!!"
I'm trying not to be rude, but you guys are kinda hurtin'. You really don't understand the level this conversation is on...sorry.
Oh, sweet. You're just too perfect. Say something else...
Ok. See look:
"Yagshemesh. I'm-a-Borat. I like you." (in Khasakstani accent)
"You like Khazakstan?" (also, in Khazakstani accent)
"U...S...and A!! U...S...........and A!!"
Pretty good right?
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
...then who would Borat pick on? Cool people like us? Don't think so...
Fine so you were in fact being facetious...had to check to bring it out of you.
See, I'm down man. I'm down. Yeeeeaaaaah.
What a find!!!
This is for you people out there without a conscience or who are incapable of standing back and saying "this is in fact not cool or funny", because the thought of even saying something like that doesn't even pass your mind, since it would in itself be extremely uncool...
...yeah I'm sure you don't get what I mean...
So here's a review of an intelligent critic who saw in Borat EXACTLY what I've been talking about...Interestingly enough, I was able to pick up this essence of the movie after only watching a few snippets.
...yes I'm that good.
- "The point is that the movie's funniest laughs come from people and their reactions, not the material written by Cohen and his crew. Their humor is mean, not funny. Cohen spends the movie gladly accepting the kindness of the strangers who accept him despite his strange looks and demeanor, then takes advantage of their good graces by turning them into laughing stocks for his audience. Cohen sometimes goes too far to get those laughs, like when he starts breaking things in a Mom 'n' Pop shop "by accident." Tom Green has been doing this same schtick for years and been attacked by critics for it. The only difference is that Borat uses a funny foreign accent, which apparently makes it "more intelligent." Certainly Andy Kaufman had a stellar career doing a similar character without resorting to racial epithets, and Eugene Hutz of New York band Gogol Bordello, an actual Eastern European, plays a similar cartoon character onstage--one slightly modified for Liev Schreiber's "Everything Is Illuminated"--without it being so offensive.
And then there's the anti-Semitism, something so ridiculously flagrant that I would seriously question anyone who finds the jokes funny. The Jewish people have had to face very real oppression and racism for thousands of years. "Borat" makes it seem like it's okay to laugh at that, starting with his town's tradition of "The Running of the Jews," as ridiculous caricatures with giant paper maché heads being chased down the street by kids. This idea is reintroduced when Borat and his producer find themselves "trapped" in a bed and breakfast run by a kindly Jewish couple, and they start throwing money at cockroaches to fend them off. The fact that Cohen is himself Jewish doesn't make it any better than Mel Gibson's more subtle anti-Semitism, nor does it make it any less irresponsible to release a movie that makes light of racism purely in the name of comedy."
It's unbelievable, the difference between him/myslef and the one-dimensional audience like you who doesn't have the capacity to see the difference between something funny and something wrong...you just group it all together...and at the end of the day, you're just a fan of the genre and not of what's in front of you.
...yes again, I'm sure you don't get what I mean...
And I’m betting the responses to this post will be the same as all the responses people have been giving all this time, the argument essentially being "you don't get it, 'cause if you got it you'd find it funny"...Wow.
So yeah. The critic and I don't get it. You guys get it because you're clearly more intelligent, laid back, unpretentious…and, oh yeah, cool.
BTW. This last post just seriously pwnd you!
Wow, you really are ridiculous, aren't you?
Here's a more balanced discussion on the topic.
The genius of Cohen's satirical character is that he acts as a catalyst to show the utter racist, sexist, nationalist and homophobic nature at the core of modern America. Oh, and it's also really funny. Like your posts.
Zoing.