Originally posted by Validus
Still with these rock monsters, I was under the impression they got a win over Classic Juggernaut and instead it's current "I can barely match Colossus" Juggs. I can't see these guys posing much trouble in a herald level tourney with guys who have star level energy output.
They could be a distraction if nothing else.
I have an idea that might appease people. Let's declare any constructs as being exempt from any protection under the rules, but still restricted by them. This way, you can have your flying earth golems and cloud dragons and GL constructs and whatever else, but people are allowed to teleport them away/use matter manip to turn them to water/etc.
Originally posted by leonidas
me neither. even if they can be amde to fly, there's not much THOSE guys could do. but who the hell KNOWS what's in that bag he can pull out . . .
Originally posted by Khellendros
I have an idea that might appease people. Let's declare any constructs as being exempt from any protection under the rules, but still restricted by them. This way, you can have your flying earth golems and cloud dragons and GL constructs, but people are allowed to teleport them away/use matter manip to turn them to water/etc.
Too cheap in my opinion. You can't have double standards here. It's either one, or the other. 😉
Originally posted by batdude123
Too cheap in my opinion. You can't have double standards here. It's either one, or the other. 😉
Originally posted by Khellendros
How is that a double standard? They aren't team memebers, they are an attack. Thus, they shouldn't be allowed to have power above the limits but they also shouldn't be protected like they were part of a team.
I'm saying it's kind of stupid to be able to use powers that are above the power cap on those rock giants, but can't be used against the other opponents. That's why I think it should be one or the other. Like Val said, those rock giants should be the least of our concerns.
Originally posted by batdude123
I'm saying it's kind of stupid to be able to use powers that are above the power cap on those rock giants, but can't be used against the other opponents. That's why I think it should be one or the other. Like Val said, those rock giants should be the least of our concerns.
Originally posted by batdude123
I'm saying it's kind of stupid to be able to use powers that are above the power cap on those rock giants, but can't be used against the other opponents. That's why I think it should be one or the other. Like Val said, those rock giants should be the least of our concerns.
GOOOOOO BATDUDE! 💃
Originally posted by Khellendros
Not above the power caps, outside the power caps. Silver Surfer can still transmute, he just can't transmute the opposing team. If you give constructs the same protection as team memebers, they basically BECOME members of the team and thus break one of the very first and fundamental rules of the tourney, IE "three fighters to a team".
However, they wouldn't be as much of "members" as they would be powers. That would be like if somebody were to attack somebody else, they could use powers outside the caps in order to negate the effects. It's more powers imo, than members. However, you ARE arguing to make it easier for everybody else, so I'll shut up now. 😄 Sorry Blair, you're on your own. 😛
Originally posted by batdude123
However, they wouldn't be as much of "members" as they would be powers. That would be like if somebody were to attack somebody else, they could use powers outside the caps in order to negate the effects. It's more powers imo, than members. However, you ARE arguing to make it easier for everybody else, so I'll shut up now. 😄 Sorry Blair, you're on your own. 😛
Originally posted by Khellendros
Exactly, they are powers/attacks. Thus they shouldn't receive the special treatment that team memebers do. If Juggernaut throws a rock at Silver Surfer, are you saying he shouldn't be allowed to transmute it to something harmless?
You're trying to find grey areas here. The power caps have been SET.