Originally posted by Nellinator
In my earlier comment perhaps I should have emphasized the pain part of opinion. Unlike heterosexuals homosexuals cause pain by their choice of sexuality. I agree that heterosexuals are responsible for most pain in the world, but would say that it isn't their sexuality that causes grief.
I still don't understand how, exactly, homosexuality causes pain. In your opinion.
Re: Is being bisexual a sin?
Originally posted by Leo.M
You're not gay, but you're also not straight. Is that a sin in God's eyes? Is it wrong to like both men and women? 😕
Diversity is one of the greatest gifts the world has to offer. What kind of world would this be if we were all the same--if we all thought the same, dressed the same, acted the same? There would be little or no growth in society because no fresh ideas would be expressed.
How often do you fell that you aren’t’ good enough? How many times have you felt that because of who you are, you won’t be able to succeed or because of your background or lifestyle you won’t be accepted? Most people feel this way at one time or another. When we are faced with an obstacle or challenge, our insecurities rise up within us. Some of this fear is of being different, but what is important is how we express our differences and how we accept others’ differences.
Attaining true happiness does not require us to become anything other than a human being; it is recognizing our own true value and worth exactly as we are. By being true to ourselves, we can become happy. Only we know what it is that makes us happy and only we know when we are making efforts to make ourselves happy. Comparing ourselves with others only leads to a sense of inferiority or superiority. By focusing on surpassing our own limitations--without focusing on what others are doing--we will find it much easier to grow. No matter how much we try to become like someone else, we can only be ourselves.
I am homosexual and i am Buddhist...The Buddha, Shakyamuni or Gautama, gave no indication that one's sexual orientation has any bearing on one's spiritual practice. The five precepts, which form the most basic foundation of a moral life in Buddhism [in general], encourage the abstention from "sexual misconduct," a term that generally refers to sexual activity between two people outside of a long-term committed relationship. It has nothing to do with "orientation."
The Buddha did, however, have strong words to say about sexuality/sensuality in general, as it is one of the most powerful expressions of human craving and attachment. And craving — the second Noble Truth — is a root cause of human suffering. The Buddha was very clear: if you're genuinely concerned about your long-term happiness, then it's worth reassessing the value of engaging in activities — be they heterosexual, homosexual, or non-sexual — that feed your cravings:
"Even if it's with pain,
you should abandon
sensual desires
if you aspire
to future safety from bondage.
Alert,
with a mind well-released,
touch release now here,
now there.
An attainer-of-wisdom,
having fulfilled the holy life,
is said to have gone
to the end of the world, gone
beyond...."
It is worth noting that the Buddha explicitly discouraged his followers — men and women, alike — from dwelling on their sexual identity. Although in this particular sutta he was describing heterosexuals, the message clearly applies to everyone.
Originally posted by MyOwnMuse
I still don't understand how, exactly, homosexuality causes pain. In your opinion.
In my point of view, there is no difference on sexual orientation-be they homo, bi or straight male or female will suffer pains. Each every one of us will experience the bitterness of sufferings. This is the first Noble Truth taught by the Buddha. It is not the gender itself who caused our sufferings. The Buddha succintly answered when asked what causes human suffering in this world. He said, "It is the deluded workings of one's mind"...
Originally posted by MyOwnMuse
I still don't understand how, exactly, homosexuality causes pain. In your opinion.
Originally posted by Nellinator
Homosexuality has torn families apart, broken friendships, and caused enmity and division between humans.
Granted, heterosexual relationships have done these things as well, but the cause was never because they were homosexual. Homosexuality creates one more reason for hatred and discrimination in the world and I truly believe that an end to homosexuality rather than a change in people's bias's and beliefs is easier to achieve. I am not convinced that homosexuality is inherited and therefore I believe that it can be changed.
Alternatively, I believe that most hatred is implacable. A true, but sad commentary on the state of mankind.
Well, the only hatred that I see that stems if from bigots like you you who spew irrational and contradictory hateful statements.
You are saying that everyone should be the same. I'll say flat out, thats WRONG.
Originally posted by Alliance
Well, the only hatred that I see that stems if from bigots like you you who spew irrational and contradictory hateful statements.You are saying that everyone should be the same. I'll say flat out, thats WRONG.
There is no such thing as a "uniform" society, if that were so where would art, stories, culture as a matter of fact come from. Having a "uniform" society means only one thing...............no freedom.......freedom of speech, freedom of will and freedom of feelings aswell as understanding.
Originally posted by NINJ4_BL4D3
There is no such thing as a "uniform" society, if that were so where would art, stories, culture as a matter of fact come from. Having a "uniform" society means only one thing...............no freedom.......freedom of speech, freedom of will and freedom of feelings aswell as understanding.
Originally posted by Nellinator
No need to get angry, I said nothing hateful. I stated an opinion that I fully admit could be wrong. I never said everyone should be the same because I also believe that is wrong. I simply said conformity is easier to achieve than the changing of people's beliefs. Look at China.
Originally posted by Nellinator
Homosexuality has torn families apart, broken friendships, and caused enmity and division between humans.
Originally posted by NellinatorOh! So you clarly state that endind homosexuality would be a good thing and that homosexuality is essentiall just another casue for discintion and so should be eliminated to create a more uniform society. In this "great" society peole like you wouldn't have to hate, because there would be nothing to hate, because everone is just like you.
Homosexuality creates one more reason for hatred and discrimination in the world and I truly believe that an end to homosexuality rather than a change in people's bias's and beliefs is easier to achieve.
And you're wrong. Killing off every last homosexual would still leave people like me, who hate haters like yourself.