Re: Is being bisexual a sin?
Originally posted by Leo.M
You're not gay, but you're also not straight. Is that a sin in God's eyes? Is it wrong to like both men and women? 😕
No, it's not like a person chooses to be gay or lesbian or bisexual, so why would it be a sin? the definition of a sin is something that you knowingly chose to do that is immoral or whatever.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Is being bisexual a sin?
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Is there actual reasoning behind purporting people choose their sexuality? Not really. It's mainly irrational prejudice.
Ever read 1984 by George Orwell? I'll use that as an example. If you keep cramming ideas into your mind, no matter how far off from your beliefs, you can get it so engrained into you mind that it becomes 'reality.'
I'm not prejudice by the way.
"The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments or convictions." is a pretty apt description of holding a view that people, be they hetero-, homo- or bi-sexual choose their sexuality.
You think homosexuals and bisexuals have homosexuality and bisexuality, respectively, "crammed into their minds"? Sexuality isn't a "belief".
It depends on the definition of homosexuality people subscribe to. Either:
A) Homosexuality is the act of sexual relations with a person of one's own gender.
B) Homosexuality is the sexual attraction to one's own gender.
If you're in Camp A, than you're gonna think it's a choice. If you're Camp B, you're gonna think it's not a choice.
It's really just a disagreement on the definition of homosexuality and moreover sexual orientation.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You think homosexuals and bisexuals have homosexuality and bisexuality, respectively, "crammed into their minds"? Sexuality isn't a "belief".
Sorry if I sounded a little too strong.
Still, take my reasoning(1984) for a different topic and it does make sense doesn't it?
Originally posted by Draco69There are those who believe B) to be chosen...
It depends on the definition of homosexuality people subscribe to. Either:A) Homosexuality is the act of sexual relations with a person of one's own gender.
B) Homosexuality is the sexual attraction to one's own gender.
If you're in Camp A, than you're gonna think it's a choice. If you're Camp B, you're gonna think it's not a choice.
It's really just a disagreement on the definition of homosexuality and moreover sexual orientation.
Originally posted by EchuuRiddle me this: Do you think you can make a homosexual turn straight by forcefeeding him\her straight porn? Or getting them to have sex with the opposite gender? Likewise vice versa for heterosexuals.
Sorry if I sounded a little too strong.Still, take my reasoning(1984) for a different topic and it does make sense doesn't it?
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
There are those who believe B) to be chosen...
Yeah. And they're contradictory. Either they don't understand the meaning of sexual attraction, they're being stubborn, or they're actually in Camp A but they don't know it.
You can't choose your sexual attraction any more than you can choose to be hungry or to be thirsty.
You CAN choose to have relations with a man or woman, or eat sryrofoam or drink bile, even though you don't WANT to. Watch Fear Factor, for example. 😘
I just think people need to reclarify what the definition of homosexuality is. Like in a dictionary or something.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Elaborate on your question...?
Basically take my reasoning from above. Use it on a different topic.
i.e. I want to make someone believe they are a horrible person. Or that they are godlike, or as in the world of 1984 the economy is supposedly doing better every year even though the evidence clearly shows otherwise.
As for your question: It may be possible but I wouldn't know because I doubt it has ever been tried.
Originally posted by EchuuI.E. brainwashing.
Ever read 1984 by George Orwell? I'll use that as an example. If you keep cramming ideas into your mind, no matter how far off from your beliefs, you can get it so engrained into you mind that it becomes 'reality.'I'm not prejudice by the way.
Originally posted by Draco69No, you have it all wrong. You see, people that believe people don't choose their sexuality don't understand the meaning of sexual attraction, , are being stubborn, or are actually in camp band just don't know it.
Yeah. And they're contradictory. Either they don't understand the meaning of sexual attraction, they're being stubborn, or they're actually in Camp A but they don't know it.You can't choose your sexual attraction any more than you can choose to be hungry or to be thirsty.
You CAN choose to have relations with a man or woman, or eat sryrofoam or drink bile, even though you don't WANT to. Watch Fear Factor, for example. 😘
I just think people need to reclarify what the definition of homosexuality is. Like in a dictionary or something.
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Originally posted by EchuuAs for your question: It may be possible but I wouldn't know because I doubt it has ever been tried.
Actually, that's largely what they do in "conversion" programs for "ex-gays." They've been doing it for the last 60 years with no success...at least not according to them. THEY say they have a 99% (why is always that number...?) success rate, but reliable sources like the American Psychiatric Association as well as the Harvard Medical School balk at these techniques and often quote that psychologically damages the homosexuals they try to "convert" through straight porn and lots of Hail Marys....yeah that doesn't make sense to me either.
Most "ex-gays" who "successfully" complete the program off the bat say they are not gay anymore. However the median of coming to terms that they were frauded is about 4 months to a year depending on the intensity of the program.
In actuality, the program just taught them to repress and ignore their sexual desires as one would ignore the need to pee during the SATs....