Is being bisexual a sin?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Actually, I'd not seen the thread before today. So, I actually started on page one and didn't see your first post until the last page. It's not difficult to figure out when you've entered a thread. You bring the IQ quotient down by quite a few points. Then the interesting threads are just you verbally masturbating your different personas.

So, in an act of desperation you're actually going to accuse ME of being both Whob AND Gay Guy...thus, making it obvious that you are all three, Whob.

No! I just wonder how intelligent is it to argue with what you already PERCEIVE as unintelligent. Makes a lot of sense doesn't it. 😄

And thinking is a also a form of masturbation, and it gives me the greatest pleasure and apparently causes you agony because you make it sound so negative. and watch your face I am about to ejaculate 😈 :

"There is no point to argue with an idiot except to make two of you"

You can always prove that I am right again by arguing some more. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by TheSpinner
No! I just wonder how intelligent is it to argue with what you already PERCEIVE as unintelligent. Makes a lot of sense doesn't it. 😄

And thinking is a also a form of masturbation, and it gives me the greatest pleasure and apparently causes you agony because you make it sound so negative. and watch your face I am about to ejaculate 😈 :

[B]"There is no point to argue with an idiot except to make two of you"

You can always prove that I am right again by arguing some more. 😮‍💨 [/B]

When did I argue? I called you asinine. No argument in my book.

😮‍💨

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
...So, in an act of desperation you're actually going to accuse ME of being both Whob AND Gay Guy...thus, making it obvious that you are all three, Whob.

hysterical whob has invaded the forum. You could say we are suffering from whobisim. 😆

😆 😆 😆

Perhaps whob will enter the language.

whob: noun 1. one who annoys persons in the KMC forums 2. One who makes opinion or faith based arguments without presenting logic to back them up

Originally posted by docb77
Perhaps whob will enter the language.

whob: noun 1. one who annoys persons in the KMC forums 2. One who makes opinion or faith based arguments without presenting logic to back them up

Don't whob on my parade. 😆

Originally posted by Alliance
My fault for making it two posts. I like to give complete and though answers.

Ok. There have been many god's/religions thought history. People think theirs is right. Most often, people are raised from birth being religious. They are taught how to walk, read, and believe. Simply because thier parents do. Most people don't change thier relgions (significantly). One thing that is common in religion is that other are wrong. its always "mine is right"

Now...what we see here is children being told something before they have logical thought and knowledge of abstract concepts. They don't know if it is right or wrong...they are told so.

Everyone's religion cant be the only right one, but which one is right then becomes an issue. It seemse to me to be mostly an arbitrary point based on who your parents are.

Therfore...I can conlude that no particular religion in itself is factually correct. Now...this is not to say that religion doesn't have redeeming philisophical values...but there is no one facutal conscious god behind the universe.

Beyond this (contrary to JBF's belief) there is no direct evidence for any sort of holy or divine experience ever taking place thorugh human history. Religion was invented to explain the natural world. Lighting is cause by Zeus throwing lightning bolts. Don't piss him off an you wont get hit. Its only natural to project human like attributes onto a god, because that is all we know. Therefore...Zues becomes human...has a wife, affairs, children. Its not a jump to make him angry... To protect themselves...rituals (sacrifices) are created to attempt to please the god.

Thus because we need to explain things, (from lighting to war) human-like gods are created. Evidence of their existance. "sure...its all around us!" Lightning happens....it must be Zeus.

To be continued for yours and my sanity's sake. Death to long posts.

Maybe I'm missing something here but the logical "belief" one would take in this position would be Agnosticism.

Originally posted by maham
Yup.Bein gay is a sin so if ur attracted 2 a man with u urself BEIN a man then ..I wud say yes.

So INVOLUNTARILY being something is automatically a sin?

I thought Sin was INTENTIONAL...

You are making NO SENSE 👇...but hey, what can i expect? Most of your arguments a WEAK and one sided. 😉

Originally posted by Alliance
ohh...heavan forbid we were uncomfortable.

You win with life and freedom. Comfort doesnt pass with me. How about Torture violates health?

I don't mean comfort as in "my ass itches..make it stop you demon!"

I meant this: If someone violates your comfort...meaning your ability to have harmless pleasure, your state of peace...by inflicting torture on your person, they are violating you in a way other than violating your freedom or life.

Therefore what they are doing is EVIL 😉

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
So [b]INVOLUNTARILY being something is automatically a sin?

I thought Sin was INTENTIONAL...

You are making NO SENSE 👇...but hey, what can i expect? Most of your arguments a WEAK and one sided. 😉 [/B]

I meant this: If someone violates your comfort...meaning your ability to have harmless pleasure, your state of peace...by inflicting torture on your person, they are violating you in a way other than violating your freedom or life.

Therefore what they are doing is EVIL

Originally posted by Eis
It's not an argument, it's a fact.

What's a fact?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
What's a fact?

Originally posted by Eis
That for a christian or a muslim being gay or bisexual is a sin.

That is not what I was arguing.

MAham, or wahtever his name is, said that BEING something can be a sin...even though BEING something is not intentional.

Yet SIN is an intentional act against God.

If a Self-contradicting fact 😉 and a weak argument.

Originally posted by Eis
You mean evil in your opinion.

YES, in my opinion, for thou who beleives Good and Evil do not exist.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
That is not what I was arguing.

MAham, or wahtever his name is, said that BEING something can be a sin...even though BEING something is not intentional.

Yet SIN is an intentional act against God.

If a Self-contradicting fact 😉 and a weak argument.

YES, in my opinion, for thou who beleives Good and Evil do not exist.

I have moral standards, I know my distinction of good and evil. I simply accept there are no universal standards therefore nothing is "officially" good or bad.

Originally posted by Eis
You're right, it's a man having sex with another man that's a sin. Forgot about that for a second.

I have moral standards, I know my distinction of good and evil. I simply accept there are no universal standards therefore nothing is "officially" good or bad.

1) Yes, that's why his argument and fact is invalid.

2) I know you have your moral standards. And i know there is no socially "set" standards for good and evil, well not universally social.

However, i do believe that morality exists to an extant...i beleive it is both subjective ANd intuitive....

As social beings it is our natural desire to thrive off eachother, to come together to survive and enjoy each other's company. No social creature, especially homo sapien, desires to be alone.

However, when a social creature goes against its own nature by attacking or being cruel to one of its OWN kind...i beleive that is anti-progressive.

If EVIL truly exists....then by evolutionary and natural standards it has to be the antithesis of our desire to be together.

HATE is definately a DISUNIFIER...therefore HATE is almost automatically considered evil by most standards. However, every person has a different take on what "hate" actually is.

As social beings it is our natural desire to thrive off eachother, to come together to survive and enjoy each other's company. No social creature, especially homo sapien, desires to be alone.

The rest of your post is based on the quote I replied to so I won't bother replying to the rest.

Originally posted by Eis
That for a christian or a muslim being gay or bisexual is a sin.

As I am not a Christian nor a Muslim, my homosexuality is not a sin. 😉

Well, if the Christians or Muslims are right it still is, you just won't care about it until after you die.

Originally posted by TheSpinner
very Correct! and I was well aware of that. The use of 'you' is just a figure of speech. And does not pertain to the real you: I don't know anything about you, therefore I cannot comment on you personally and I can only comment on what I read, and that is all it was. I hope this clears out any misunderstanding.

Note: If there is ever a need for it and I see it happening with another member here, they Will know it for sure because I don't try to hide.

Just have fun! and think of me as I don't really exist 😉

is it comprehenensible.....