Jesus...the Creator?

The Bible teaches that Jesus created all things. What do you say?

"He (God the Father) has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son (Jesus) of His love, in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins. He (Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. FOR BY HIM ALL THINGS WERE CREATED that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, AND IN HIM ALL THINGS CONSIST."

Colossians 1:13-17

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
The Bible teaches that Jesus created all things. What do you say?

"He (God the Father) has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son (Jesus) of His love, in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins. He (Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. FOR BY HIM ALL THINGS WERE CREATED that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, AND IN HIM ALL THINGS CONSIST."

Colossians 1:13-17

I follow the teachings of the Lotus sutra.

A core principle of the essential teaching of the Lotus Sutra is that the Buddha actually attained enlightenment in the remote past. This is revealed in the “Life Span of the Thus Come One” (sixteenth) chapter, in which Buddha states, “But good men, it has been immeasurable, boundless hundreds, thousands, ten thousands, millions of nayutas of kalpas since I in fact attained Buddhahood.” Thus, Buddha expresses that an incalculably vast period has passed since he first became a Buddha. This immense span of time is often called “numberless major world system dust particle kalpas,”

There was never any point of creation. God (Universe +) has always been.

I say no. 😄

Originally posted by Alliance
I say no. 😄

Come on, give us a quote from your "holy" book. 😛

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Come on, give us a quote from your "holy" book. 😛

Originally posted by Alliance
Is there a book of logic?

No wonder you are so... you. You don't have a holy book. 😱 You had better get to the library. 😆

Library=Temple...but the closes one has 3 million volumes and I cant read them all. 🙁

Originally posted by Alliance
Library=Temple...but the closes one has 3 million volumes and I cant read them all. 🙁

Buddhists have that same problem. I have about 20 books on my to read list. 😱

I have a bookshelf full...I just try to plow though them!

what problems we have...🙄

The term translated into God for the creation in Genesis is "'elohiym"

'elohiym

Definition
(plural)
rulers, judges
divine ones
angels
gods
(plural intensive - singular meaning)
god, goddess
godlike one
works or special possessions of God
the (true) God
God

eyhl) is the plural form of hhwl) which definition is simply

1. God
or
2. False God

Imo it is possible that the term in Genesis refers to more than one God, thus Jesus Christ, and we believe other beings, assisted God the Father in the creation.

We also believe that God the Father directed or managed creation, and Christ did the actual creating with aid from angels.

There is a problem that Hebrew speakers will, at times, use the plural to designate greatness or majesty. So it is entirely possible that the Genesis account is referring to one entity.

or Genesis could refer to a pantheon

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
The Bible teaches that Jesus created all things. What do you say?

"He (God the Father) has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son (Jesus) of His love, in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins. He (Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. FOR BY HIM ALL THINGS WERE CREATED that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, AND IN HIM ALL THINGS CONSIST."

Colossians 1:13-17

^ or it could be a reflection of people's beliefs, at the time, and have nothing to do with what really happened. The truth in the bible is not literal.

Sciences need to be blended.

religion needs to submit

resistance is futile

Originally posted by Regret
resistance is futile

😆

resistance to what?

the Borg of course 😉 ....science

ick...startrek