Originally posted by Mindship
Though WW is a more skilled fighter, I don't think she is skilled enough to compensate for Thor's superior strength.
Goldilocks 6/10.
He might be stronger (possibly), however if he is, it is so slightly that in fact it wouldn't make much of a difference in the outcome of the fight.
Originally posted by badabing
Serious question:
How can people be sure that WW is the superior fighter? Thor was trained in the arts of war, so he has to be a skilled combatant. I would think that their skills are very close.
The same could be said of Thor he seems more of a brawler/grappler with some techniques(usually with his hammer) while WW seems more like a brawler/grappler/martial artist(with a lot of techniques).😬
Originally posted by AccelHmm... I'd say it's difficult to hold your breath while pulling a third of the moon. Also when she moves a planet with Superman and MM she's fine in space as well... I don't recall any breathing apparatus 😕 unless I'm recalling wrong...
Well, naturally, different writers and artists will depict that part of her in different ways, especially since it's not exactly a big trait like her speed or skill. However, for the most part, she's been shown as someone who needs air to breathe. She could have been holding her breath while in space during the moon feat.
Originally posted by LethalFemme
The same could be said of Thor he seems more of a brawler/grappler with some techniques(usually with his hammer) while WW seems more like a brawler/grappler/martial artist(with a lot of techniques).😬
Damn straight. She's easily on Nightwing's level of martial arts ability.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Hmm... I'd say it's difficult to hold your breath while pulling a third of the moon. Also when she moves a planet with Superman and MM she's fine in space as well... I don't recall any breathing apparatus 😕 unless I'm recalling wrong...
As I've said the plane can be used for oxygen in outer space.😊
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Hmm... I'd say it's difficult to hold your breath while pulling a third of the moon. Also when she moves a planet with Superman and MM she's fine in space as well... I don't recall any breathing apparatus 😕 unless I'm recalling wrong...
Originally posted by LethalFemme
No she isn't it's just one of the dumb misconceptions about Batman it's the same with Wolverine.😬
You sure? I thought that in a comic, she got depowered into a 'normal human' once, and then got bested by one of Batman's rogue's who Batman normally out-fought.
I could be wrong, but I believe it happened....
Either way, I'm not saying she isn't a skilled fighter! Not at all! I would still put her above Thor, whole heartingly! I just think, if she didn't have the immense super-powers, batman could put her down. As could Batgirl, Nightwing, Shiva, Richard Dragon, and the other Martial Arts 'gods,' in the DCU.
Originally posted by Soljer
You sure? I thought that in a comic, she got depowered into a 'normal human' once, and then got bested by one of Batman's rogue's who Batman normally out-fought.I could be wrong, but I believe it happened....
Either way, I'm not saying she isn't a skilled fighter! Not at all! I would still put her above Thor, whole heartingly! I just think, if she didn't have the immense super-powers, batman could put her down. As could Batgirl, Nightwing, Shiva, Richard Dragon, and the other Martial Arts 'gods,' in the DCU.
That's a one time showing. She was giving Black Canary a hell of a fight while depowered. She is probably Nightwing's equal in the skill department. 😉
Originally posted by Soljer
You sure? I thought that in a comic, she got depowered into a 'normal human' once, and then got bested by one of Batman's rogue's who Batman normally out-fought.I could be wrong, but I believe it happened....
Either way, I'm not saying she isn't a skilled fighter! Not at all! I would still put her above Thor, whole heartingly! I just think, if she didn't have the immense super-powers, batman could put her down. As could Batgirl, Nightwing, Shiva, Richard Dragon, and the other Martial Arts 'gods,' in the DCU.
Same could be said of Thor in every who's marvel's best fighter thread how often do you see Thor compared to Wolverine, Captain America, Daredevil, Elektra, etc?
Originally posted by batdude123
That's a one time showing. She was giving Black Canary a hell of a fight while depowered. She is probably Nightwing's equal in the skill department. 😉
Originally posted by LethalFemme
Same could be said of Thor in every who's marvel's best fighter thread how often do you see Thor compared to Wolverine, Captain America, Daredevil, Elektra, etc?
You are both missing my point, I'm not saying that Thor is a better fighter, I'm just defending the point that she isn't Batman's equal or anything.
Being nightwing-level in the skill department is NOTHING to scoff at, and I wouldn't dare put thor in comparison to Wolverine or Captain America, I...I don't remember what I was pointing out. Just that, at times, Wonder Woman's martial prowess seems like it's over-rated. She is skilled, no doubt, but some people act like she is Karate Kid.
Originally posted by LethalFemme
Same could be said of Thor in every who's marvel's best fighter thread how often do you see Thor compared to Wolverine, Captain America, Daredevil, Elektra, etc?
I see her as Nightwing's equal in the skill department. She gave Black Canary one hell of a fight while she was depowered. 😬
Originally posted by Soljer
You are both missing my point, I'm not saying that Thor is a better fighter, I'm just defending the point that she isn't Batman's equal or anything.Being nightwing-level in the skill department is NOTHING to scoff at, and I wouldn't dare put thor in comparison to Wolverine or Captain America, I...I don't remember what I was pointing out. Just that, at times, Wonder Woman's martial prowess seems like it's over-rated. She is skilled, no doubt, but some people act like she is Karate Kid.
Well, I've never overrestimated her fighting ability. Hell, it's down right underrestimated on the threads.
Originally posted by Soljer
You are both missing my point, I'm not saying that Thor is a better fighter, I'm just defending the point that she isn't Batman's equal or anything.Being nightwing-level in the skill department is NOTHING to scoff at, and I wouldn't dare put thor in comparison to Wolverine or Captain America, I...I don't remember what I was pointing out. Just that, at times, Wonder Woman's martial prowess seems like it's over-rated. She is skilled, no doubt, but some people act like she is Karate Kid.
Well how the hell could Batman be better than someone who's learned and mastered every art before his ancestors even existed?
Originally posted by batdude123
Well, I've never overrestimated her fighting ability. Hell, it's down right underrestimated on the threads.
A lot of Wonder Woman's powers are under rated on these boards. Mostly by those who think "Female Superhero? You mean..damsel in distress, right? No? Wait....she has breasts, right? SCORE! FEMALE SUPERHEROS!!"
Ugh.
But on a slightly more serious note, while she is better skilled than Thor is, I don't think it is by as wide a margin as some in this thread make it seem. Same with Thor's strength, not as wide a margin as some make it seem.
I wouldn't say Thor is any Captain America or Wolverine, but that doesn't stop him from being a DAMN fine warrior.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Batman's fighting skills and experience are overrated... in a similar way to Wolverine's.
While I would put him below some of the Top-tiers in marvel like Captain America, I wouldn't say that his skills are over-rated. He is probably top five in DCU, top ten for certain.