Thor(without mjolnir) vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by Soljer
While I would put him below some of the Top-tiers in marvel like Captain America, I wouldn't say that his skills are over-rated. He is probably top five in DCU, top ten for certain.

👆 If anything, I've noticed that his skills are underrated. Seriously, some people have stated that he only goes h2h against common street thugs and just uses his gadgets against his rogues. 🙄

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Batman's fighting skills and experience are overrated... in a similar way to Wolverine's.

You're doing it again.

Originally posted by batdude123
Eh, depowered she'd get beat by Bruce. There's no doubt about that one. 😉 However, she's NW level.

Didn't she beat lady shiva someone who beat Batman?

Originally posted by Soljer
While I would put him below some of the Top-tiers in marvel like Captain America, I wouldn't say that his skills are over-rated. He is probably top five in DCU, top ten for certain.

Originally posted by batdude123
You take that back. bawling crybaby

Originally posted by LethalFemme
You're doing it again.

Didn't she beat lady shiva someone who beat Batman?

The best WW could hope for is that The Mighty Thor doesn't completely smite her and afterward she's allowed to serve his food and wash his clothes. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Well like Wolverine there's this idea that he knows every fighting style ever... when that's not really depicted. Yes he's up there in H2H... but in terms of something like fighting experience WW a warrior born with a thousand years of experience should be considered superior. Although I suppose fight skill and fight experience are two different things.

Wonder Woman was endowed with FAR more experience than Bruce, but I still would still put him at a higher skill level.

Though, Wolverine does NOT know every style of martial art; the "7" in all the handbooks is hyperbole. Christ.

Nor does Batman, though he knows some 127-odd styles, and we often see bits and pieces from several on panel.

Originally posted by LethalFemme
Didn't she beat lady shiva someone who beat Batman?

She got beat by Black Canary in a fight. However, it was one HELL of a fight. Black Canary herself is just BARELY under Lady Shiva. She's around NW's level give or take.

Btw: 😐

Originally posted by Juntai
Batgirl's beat Shiva... twice.
Batman's beat Shiva.[Granted, she was mind controlled, its their only real fight I recall ever seeing.]
Batman's beat Batgirl.
Batman's beat the person who taught Batgirl.
Matter of fact, in the newest issue of Robin, Robin was beating up Cassandra - formerly Batgirl.

They fluctuate.😬

Originally posted by Juntai
Batgirl's beat Shiva... twice.
Batman's beat Shiva.[Granted, she was mind controlled, its their only real fight I recall ever seeing.]
Batman's beat Batgirl.
Batman's beat the person who taught Batgirl.
Matter of fact, in the newest issue of Robin, Robin was beating up Cassandra - formerly Batgirl.

Batman and Shiva have had a few encounters but nothing really happened in them. 😬 They were basically stalemates. However, Batman is the only one of the two has knocked the other one out. ✅

Originally posted by batdude123
She got beat by Black Canary in a fight. However, it was one HELL of a fight. Black Canary herself is just BARELY under Lady Shiva. She's around NW's level give or take.

Btw: 😐

Originally posted by LethalFemme
They fluctuate.😬

If that is the case, you can't say Wonder Woman > Shiva = Bruce. If they fluctuate enough for Bruce to beat-up on Batgirl who beat-up on Shiva...then we have a few logical inconsistancies.

Originally posted by Juntai
Black Canary has been training with Mother, she's about on Shiva's level now.. not quite, imo, but closing that gap.

Hence "BARELY." 😉

Originally posted by Soljer
If that is the case, you can't say Wonder Woman > Shiva = Bruce. If they fluctuate enough for Bruce to beat-up on Batgirl who beat-up on Shiva...then we have a few logical inconsistancies.

Skill wise: Shiva>Batman
Physical wise (who's stronger, more agile, etc.): Batman>Shiva

Hey, all. I am a slight regular on this forum, and I just figured I'd let everyone know that I'm gonna be gone for the next two weeks or so to work on a house I just bought in another state. No internet, so no KMC. I doubt many care, just in case anyone wonders where I went :-P.

Originally posted by Soljer
Hey, all. I am a slight regular on this forum, and I just figured I'd let everyone know that I'm gonna be gone for the next two weeks or so to work on a house I just bought in another state. No internet, so no KMC. I doubt many care, just in case anyone wonders where I went :-P.

🙁

Originally posted by Soljer
Hey, all. I am a slight regular on this forum, and I just figured I'd let everyone know that I'm gonna be gone for the next two weeks or so to work on a house I just bought in another state. No internet, so no KMC. I doubt many care, just in case anyone wonders where I went :-P.

Black Canary is decent. But without the scream, Nightwing beats her for a clean majority. Say, 7/10. He will work for it everytime.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Black Canary is decent. But without the scream, Nightwing beats her for a clean majority. Say, 7/10. He will work for it everytime.

You realize that nowadays Black Canary (in birds of prey) is closing in on being as good as Lady Shiva, right?

The king of Change is back...
ookaay, since i'm feelin sorry for Thor
and annoyed at havin Black Canary, Lady shiva, nightwing, n Batman included coz of their fightin skills,
i'll let Thor use Mjolnir(no suckin out the oxygen😛, u think a guy like him wud stoop so low?)
n Wonder woman gets all her weapons back(lucky her).
Who'd win this time.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
The king of Change is back... ookaay, since i'm feelin sorry for Thor and annoyed at havin Black Canary, Lady shiva n Batman included coz of their fightin skills, i'll let Thor use Mjolnir(no suckin out the oxygen😛, u think a guy like him wud stoop so low?) n Wonder woman gets all her weapons back(lucky her). Who'd win this time.

Thor.