Originally posted by snoopdogg
Thor don't have his hammer in this fight. Without his hammer he would get murdered by Norrin.
No he wouldn't 🙁
He knocked an enraged SS out. I don't think the hammer should count when he doesn't use his abilities but strikes people with it. I think that falls under h2h combat?
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Thor can defeat Superman WW can't 😱
Flawed reasoning.
Cyclops can defeat Storm.
Storm can defeat Spider-Man.
Spider-Man can defeat Cyclops.
Cyclops cannot defeat Spider-Man.
Doesn't work like Math.
My opinion:
Superman (slightly) > Wonder Woman
Thor (slightly) > Superman
Wonder Woman=Thor. With weapons of course.
Wonder Woman>Thor. Without weapons.
Originally posted by Draco69
Flawed reasoning.Cyclops can defeat Storm.
Storm can defeat Spider-Man.
Spider-Man can defeat Cyclops.
Cyclops cannot defeat Spider-Man.
Doesn't work like Math.
My opinion:
Superman (slightly) > Wonder Woman
Thor (slightly) > Superman
Wonder Woman=Thor. With weapons of course.Wonder Woman>Thor. Without weapons.
😐
Thor with Mjolnir > WW with her weapons
You haven't proved that WW h2h > than Thor h2h
Originally posted by Draco69
Flawed reasoning.Cyclops can defeat Storm.
Storm can defeat Spider-Man.
Spider-Man can defeat Cyclops.
Cyclops cannot defeat Spider-Man.
Doesn't work like Math.
My opinion:
Superman (slightly) > Wonder Woman
Thor (slightly) > Superman
Wonder Woman=Thor. With weapons of course.Wonder Woman>Thor. Without weapons.
Actually, imo Superman's raw speed negates Thor's power advantage. So IMO Superman (SLIGHTLY, VERY SLIGHTLY)> Thor
Originally posted by newjak86
I don't think that is a fair assessment if that is what your going by.
How will one compare 1000s of years of training to another 1000s of years of training and say one worked harder through of it more than the other.Point is that Thor is an asgardian and that asgardians fight and like to go H2H Thor could in theory end alot of his matches easily but chooses to go H2H like when he fight Hulk.
Same is for the Amazons.
WW has spared with Gods so has Thor he has fought Marvel Ares many times and Herc as well.
All true. However Diana has the edge of taking time to learn Earthbound, extradimensional and extraterristrial martial arts.
She even trained with Amazons in DC 1 Million who were billions of years old. And she learned all their knowledge. There was even a small panel of her sparring with the legacy of Karate Kid, for Christ sakes....
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Can I have scans that puts her on Thor's lv of strength?Remember that Thor has learned to use his abilities without his hammer, so he has a lot of options.
Draco has already beat me to it but here are the revalent scan:
Helping to lift the Spectre
http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jlaspectresoulwarwwliftspectre.jpg
Originally posted by Soujaboy
because Thor didn't use his full abilities 😕Instead of throwing his hammer he could have used the god blast, or stole Superman's soul.
He hardly ever does that in the first place. You are saying that the fight was crap because Thor didn't use any obscure powers but instead, fought like he normally did? Yeah, well I could just as easily say that Superman didn't utilize his superior speed in that bout as well. 😉
Originally posted by Soujaboy
😐Thor with Mjolnir > WW with her weapons
Lasso is extremely powerful. It's more a plot device than the hammer.
Diana (in canon; I know it never happens the way it SHOULD...especially in the JLA) can instantly stop Thor from fighting by simply tagging him with her lasso...and make him hand over his hammer. None can resist it. No god and not even the Spectre.
Also Diana has a VERY nasty hidden power she uses every known and then:
The Morpheus Touch. This allows Diana (and her mother) to put any being (even Gods; Apollo got knocked the f*** out with it) into a soundful sleep and will not awaken until Diana wants him/her to.
So Diana just has to tap him once and she get an immediate K.O.
Originally posted by TheKahnThat seems to be more impressive than the Serpeant feat.
Draco has already beat me to it but here are the revalent scan:Helping to lift the Spectre
http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jlaspectresoulwarwwliftspectre.jpg
Originally posted by Soujaboy
because Thor didn't use his full abilities 😕Instead of throwing his hammer he could have used the god blast, or stole Superman's soul.
I don't think it's ever been shown that Thor can "steal" souls. Last I recall there were some scans on here that showed him transporting souls that someone else removed. It was never stated or implied that Mjolnir was capable of removing a person's soul. I could be wrong but I think that was the circumstances of that feat.
