Originally posted by Validus
Show me [b]one scan of Majestic or Juggernaut flat out trashing a team on par with the JLA/JSA.8th Day Juggs IS banned so that argument is gone. [/B]
Regular Juggernaut has far more durability feats than Despero does such as taking Thor's godblast with no ill effects. Again, I refer to Leo post about how he was able to beat the JLA. He had serious one sided prep. Besides a Blind Wonder Woman has had damn good showings against the JLA.
despero is a combination of doom (brains), god-cable (tp), superman (strength/durability).
he wins because he is SMART! you're exaggerating when you say he owned the jla/jsa. if i were being perfectly honest, i'd say despero is a GREAT limit for this tourny in many ways but he DOES lack many of the skills and abilities that others in the tourny possess.
Originally posted by TheKahn
Regular Juggernaut has far more durability feats than Despero does such as taking Thor's godblast with no ill effects.
Originally posted by TheKahn
Besides a Blind Wonder Woman has had damn good showings against the JLA.
Originally posted by TheKahn
Again, I refer to Leo post about how he was able to beat the JLA. He had serious one sided prep.
Originally posted by Validus
Please now. His telepathy was not in the equation during Virtue & Vice. He smashed them [b]with his bare hands. [/B]
and the only one that he MAY have ko'd was wonder woman. the rest he fended off but again, loads of guys could fend them off.
he's strong. VERY strong. stronger than supes? probably, yes (though po'd supes has ridiculous showings v the jla . . .) but is supes the strength limit?
i'm only arguing this much because i honestly believe he IS within the rules of the tourny. he's just a very good pick and if someone else had him, i'd be afraid too. 😄
Originally posted by leonidas
and the only one that he MAY have ko'd was wonder woman. the rest he fended off but again, loads of guys could fend them off.he's strong. VERY strong. stronger than supes? probably, yes (though po'd supes has ridiculous showings v the jla . . .) but is supes the strength limit?
i'm only arguing this much because i honestly believe he IS within the rules of the tourny. he's just a very good pick and if someone else had him, i'd be afraid too. 😄
Originally posted by Validus
Superman has more strength showings than Despero. Take a guess why.
Originally posted by Validus
Even though Wonder Woman later said the only person who wasn't half assing that sparring session was Batman. 🙄
All I said was that she had an impressive showing. The "they were holding back because of *blank*" argument could be used to explain any low showing
Originally posted by leonidas
val, DOOM has taken out every hero on EARTH (emperor doom)!! does that mean i can't have doom? prep is wonderful and is itself a huge plot device.you still haven't told me (aside from him being a team wrecker which i hope i explained away) exactly why you are banning him.
Originally posted by leonidas
and the only one that he MAY have ko'd was wonder woman. the rest he fended off but again, loads of guys could fend them off.
Originally posted by leonidas
he's strong. VERY strong. stronger than supes? probably, yes (though po'd supes has ridiculous showings v the jla . . .) but is supes the strength limit?
Superman is only the strength limit if you believe he's as close to Thanos level as possible without being his equal. Do you?
What I'm saying is Despero's showings against DC's top tier is highly reminiscent of Thanos' showings against Marvel's top tier. That fact is not even arguable.
Originally posted by leonidasThe problem is that he went H2H with the JLA something very few people could ever dream of doing that would be allowed into the tourny. That and he then goes on to Mind Rape one of them who is also a very powerful telepath in their own right. And then it seems more of a Plot devices that beat him.
and the only one that he MAY have ko'd was wonder woman. the rest he fended off but again, loads of guys could fend them off.he's strong. VERY strong. stronger than supes? probably, yes (though po'd supes has ridiculous showings v the jla . . .) but is supes the strength limit?
i'm only arguing this much because i honestly believe he IS within the rules of the tourny. he's just a very good pick and if someone else had him, i'd be afraid too. 😄
You know there is one other guy I can think of that can do that. Thanos