Tournament Draft Thread III

Started by newjak8626 pages

Originally posted by Blair Wind
and for the first time.....its not cuz of us newjak 😄
Hey we got the team we want 😎

Originally posted by Validus
Please now. His telepathy was not in the equation during Virtue & Vice. He smashed them [b]with his bare hands. [/B]

Originally posted by Validus
Show me [b]one scan of Majestic or Juggernaut flat out trashing a team on par with the JLA/JSA.

8th Day Juggs IS banned so that argument is gone. [/B]

Regular Juggernaut has far more durability feats than Despero does such as taking Thor's godblast with no ill effects. Again, I refer to Leo post about how he was able to beat the JLA. He had serious one sided prep. Besides a Blind Wonder Woman has had damn good showings against the JLA.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
Leo he took out Superman, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, PowerGirl. Captain Marvel, Atom smasher, and I think Black Adam at the same time in virtue and Vice.
I think most people in this tourney couuldn't do that
You know who could though Thanos 😄

despero is a combination of doom (brains), god-cable (tp), superman (strength/durability).

he wins because he is SMART! you're exaggerating when you say he owned the jla/jsa. if i were being perfectly honest, i'd say despero is a GREAT limit for this tourny in many ways but he DOES lack many of the skills and abilities that others in the tourny possess.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Regular Juggernaut has far more durability feats than Despero does such as taking Thor's godblast with no ill effects.

Superman has more strength showings than Despero. Take a guess why.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Besides a Blind Wonder Woman has had damn good showings against the JLA.

Even though Wonder Woman later said the only person who wasn't half assing that sparring session was Batman. 🙄

Originally posted by TheKahn
Again, I refer to Leo post about how he was able to beat the JLA. He had serious one sided prep.

So you guys are saying Thanos should be allowed because he also preps? Ok, first person to post after me that isn't Leo or Kahn can have Thanos.

thanos

edit: I win 😄

😖hifty: so we get a four man team with him right?

Originally posted by Validus
Please now. His telepathy was not in the equation during Virtue & Vice. He smashed them [b]with his bare hands. [/B]

and the only one that he MAY have ko'd was wonder woman. the rest he fended off but again, loads of guys could fend them off.

he's strong. VERY strong. stronger than supes? probably, yes (though po'd supes has ridiculous showings v the jla . . .) but is supes the strength limit?

i'm only arguing this much because i honestly believe he IS within the rules of the tourny. he's just a very good pick and if someone else had him, i'd be afraid too. 😄

Originally posted by leonidas
and the only one that he MAY have ko'd was wonder woman. the rest he fended off but again, loads of guys could fend them off.

he's strong. VERY strong. stronger than supes? probably, yes (though po'd supes has ridiculous showings v the jla . . .) but is supes the strength limit?

i'm only arguing this much because i honestly believe he IS within the rules of the tourny. he's just a very good pick and if someone else had him, i'd be afraid too. 😄


🙄

val, DOOM has taken out every hero on EARTH (emperor doom)!! does that mean i can't have doom? prep is wonderful and is itself a huge plot device.

you still haven't told me (aside from him being a team wrecker which i hope i explained away) exactly why you are banning him.

Originally posted by Validus
Superman has more strength showings than Despero. Take a guess why.

And non of Despero's strength feats show he's above the limit or even that he is stronger than someone like Majestic who can push around the planets in our solar system

Originally posted by Validus

Even though Wonder Woman later said the only person who wasn't half assing that sparring session was Batman. 🙄

All I said was that she had an impressive showing. The "they were holding back because of *blank*" argument could be used to explain any low showing

Originally posted by Devil Lance
🙄

😕

so if you're not bothered by him, why try and have him banned?

Originally posted by leonidas
val, DOOM has taken out every hero on EARTH (emperor doom)!! does that mean i can't have doom? prep is wonderful and is itself a huge plot device.

you still haven't told me (aside from him being a team wrecker which i hope i explained away) exactly why you are banning him.


Has Doom ever taken on multiple Class 100s in a physical confrontation?

Originally posted by leonidas
and the only one that he MAY have ko'd was wonder woman. the rest he fended off but again, loads of guys could fend them off.

Superboy Prime didn't KO Black Adam but he did pimp slap him easily enough.

Originally posted by leonidas
he's strong. VERY strong. stronger than supes? probably, yes (though po'd supes has ridiculous showings v the jla . . .) but is supes the strength limit?

Superman is only the strength limit if you believe he's as close to Thanos level as possible without being his equal. Do you?

What I'm saying is Despero's showings against DC's top tier is highly reminiscent of Thanos' showings against Marvel's top tier. That fact is not even arguable.

Originally posted by Accel
Has Doom ever taken on multiple Class 100s in a physical confrontation?

doh

mindless hulk has. would HE be banned? and what IS the limit on strength? i must have skipped over that bit . . .

Originally posted by leonidas
and the only one that he MAY have ko'd was wonder woman. the rest he fended off but again, loads of guys could fend them off.

he's strong. VERY strong. stronger than supes? probably, yes (though po'd supes has ridiculous showings v the jla . . .) but is supes the strength limit?

i'm only arguing this much because i honestly believe he IS within the rules of the tourny. he's just a very good pick and if someone else had him, i'd be afraid too. 😄

The problem is that he went H2H with the JLA something very few people could ever dream of doing that would be allowed into the tourny. That and he then goes on to Mind Rape one of them who is also a very powerful telepath in their own right. And then it seems more of a Plot devices that beat him.

You know there is one other guy I can think of that can do that. Thanos

Originally posted by TheKahn
All I said was that she had an impressive showing. The "they were holding back because of *blank*" argument could be used to explain any low showing

Most of the time, that argument is speculative among readers.

However, it was confirmed they holding back in the comic.

Originally posted by leonidas
😕

so if you're not bothered by him, why try and have him banned?


Oh I am bothered by him 😉

Originally posted by Accel
Has Doom ever taken on multiple Class 100s in a physical confrontation?

I don't know, but the Hulk has and he'd be ok.

Despero 👇