Spiderman and night cralwer vs daredevil and wolverine

Started by riceroost9 pages

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Okay. X-23, ya know her? Pretty much a female equivalent of Wolverine?
X-23 is a friggin embarassment. She is not the female equivalent of Wolverine. She is a massive mistake and a blight upon comicdom.

She has also not fought and trained with Nightcrawler for YEARS. Wolverine has and every time NC tries to teleport at Wolverine he gets stopped real fast.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Wolvie beats Nightcrawler because of his Jobber aura.

What a cop-out. You ignore several examples of Wolverine punking Nightcrawler, as well as Nightcrawler's admission that he couldn't beat Wolverine.

Originally posted by FujiFuu
night crawler can go and drink some lemonade while spiderman beats the crap out of dd and wolverine
And then Nighcrawler returns to find DD lecturing Wolverine for decapitating Spider-Man.

DD: We're not killers Logan!! We have to be better than that!!
Wolverine: Are you high Matt?

Originally posted by riceroost
X-23 is a friggin embarassment. She is not the female equivalent of Wolverine. She is a massive mistake and a blight upon comicdom.

She has also not fought and trained with Nightcrawler for YEARS. Wolverine has and every time NC tries to teleport at Wolverine he gets stopped real fast.

What a cop-out. You ignore several examples of Wolverine punking Nightcrawler, as well as Nightcrawler's admission that he couldn't beat Wolverine.

No no, I'm ignoring several "examples" of Wolverine punking Nightcrawler because it's pure and utter crap.

Nightcrawler can teleport so many times in an instant that Wolverine would not be able to keep up with him. Wolvie has no precog, and his senses can only alert him after the teleportation has happened. Nightcrawler can port far too fast in multiple successions that Wolvie could not even begin to keep up with him

I am wondering where Jinzin is.....

Originally posted by Metalmanx
No no, I'm ignoring several "examples" of Wolverine punking Nightcrawler because it's pure and utter crap.
They are crap in your personal opinion because you dont like Wolverine. In my opinion they have happened far, far too many times to discount them.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Nightcrawler can teleport so many times in an instant that Wolverine would not be able to keep up with him. Wolvie has no precog, and his senses can only alert him after the teleportation has happened. Nightcrawler can port far too fast in multiple successions that Wolvie could not even begin to keep up with him

If Nightcrawler teleports too many times in a quick succession he tires himself out. His endurance is higher than it used to be, but such a feat would still weaken him.

Wolverine's senses appear to be very near to precog on many occasions. Like using his senses to dodge optic blasts from behind without looking, and using them to sense and dodge living lightning. Both of which are much faster than Kurt.

The "BAMF!!" is loud as hell and it happens as soon as Kurt starts teleportation. This obviously alerts Wolverine to what Kurt is doing, therefor he will always be ready for Kurt. Once Kurt comes out of the teleport he Bamfs again and Wolverine's reflexes take care of the rest.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Okay. X-23, ya know her? Pretty much a female equivalent of Wolverine?

Yea. She was completely embarassed by Nightcrawler. She has all the same senses and whatnot as Wolverine. If she couldn't sense where he was going, Wolverine is going to have trouble with that as well.

Wolvie beats Nightcrawler because of his Jobber aura. Everyone he fights can't fight to their full potential because they're afraid they'll defeat Wolvie.

Anyway, I digress. Spider-Man and Nightcrawler win.

X-23 is not the equivalent of wolverine. i like her but she has got nothing on logan.

Nightcrawler got the shaft with powers because everyone can sense it. Daredevil can even say "I sense an atmospheric disturbance nearby." before Nightcrawler's teleport can complete.

Okay I see it this way. NC distracts Wolverine, teleporting around just out of reach of Wolvie, while Spiderman quickly takes out DD. After DD is gone Spiderman encases Wolverine in a web cocoon. Wolverine can break out of the cocoon in about three seconds, but NC only needs two seconds to teleport Wolverine about three miles into the air then teleport back.

NC and SM win.

would that fall be enough to kill wolvey? cause if his skeleton helps protect his vital organs, wouldnt it absorb a lot of the force of hitting the ground? couple with the regen hes got..

His bones wouldn't shatter, but his organs would still be moving at like 80-100 miles an hour. They would spill out of his rib cage and spill out his skin itself, as the skin would burst on contact with the round. Also, all of his blood vessels and arteries would burst spontaneously, and his heart and brain would probably splatter when they ran into the adamantium bones at 80-100 miles an hour. I'm sorry for being so graphic, but what I'm trying to prove is that Wolverine would be dead before his body could regenerate.

well daredevil, being a well...daredevil, could surely find one of those fluffy things they rescue outta building with when they have to jump. wolvey could land on that🙂

Lol.DD would be dead already. Read meh earlier post 😉

oops🙂 oh well...he could um...wear a differnt costume so spidey wouldnt recognize him, then he could initiate plan "catch a falling star." and...proceed to being beaten by spiderman

That...COULD WORK!!! YOUR A GENIUS!!! 😱 😱 !!111!!! 😱 !!!!11!!

wolverines has had his whole body burnt up by sentinels, including vital organs. this is more than equivalent to falling from great height. i say he'd survive.

Originally posted by Redatom65
nightcrawler can't teleport that far 3 miles is the furthest.
Hmm...

Originally posted by riceroost
If Nightcrawler teleports too many times in a quick succession he tires himself out.
Hmmmmm...

Originally posted by riceroost
They are crap in your personal opinion because you dont like Wolverine. In my opinion they have happened far, far too many times to discount them.

If Nightcrawler teleports too many times in a quick succession he tires himself out. His endurance is higher than it used to be, but such a feat would still weaken him.

Wolverine's senses appear to be very near to precog on many occasions. Like using his senses to dodge optic blasts from behind without looking, and using them to sense and dodge living lightning. Both of which are much faster than Kurt.

The "BAMF!!" is loud as hell and it happens as soon as Kurt starts teleportation. This obviously alerts Wolverine to what Kurt is doing, therefor he will always be ready for Kurt. Once Kurt comes out of the teleport he Bamfs again and Wolverine's reflexes take care of the rest.

See, there you go just judging me by what I believe. I like Wolverine. I think he's a great character when written correctly. When he's written to be defeatable by certain means. Not God-verine.

Looking at the speed and efficiency with which Nightcrawler teleports, it would be clear to see that quick ports would not only confuse Wolverine but could also dampen his senses, especially his sense of smell (being overpowered by Kurt's sulfur and brimstone stench and Logan's senses as sensitive as they are) and sight, since the large amount of smoke would be sure to be quite the hinderance on Wolvie's vision.

And it's not like Nightcrawler can't react in time. He's seen just as fast or probably even faster opponents before. I mean, Wolvie is not the only one that trains in the Danger Room for one. Nightcrawler has spent just as much time in there, perfecting his skills.

But you know, I digress. None of this really matters since the Spidey/Nightcrawler team win anyway.

Originally posted by riceroost
She has also not fought and trained with Nightcrawler for YEARS. Wolverine has and every time NC tries to teleport at Wolverine he gets stopped real fast.

Prove it, then. Give an example of Wolvie stopping Nightcrawler from teleporting during a sparring match in acceptable circumstances. Because xmarksthespot is doing a good job disproving what you're saying...

Talk is cheap.

Originally posted by H. S. 6
Prove it, then. Give an example of Wolvie stopping Nightcrawler from teleporting during a sparring match in acceptable circumstances. Because xmarksthespot is doing a good job disproving what you're saying...

Talk is cheap.

I agree. That would be the tell of the tale and the end of this debate. I dont think Wolvie would die from a 3 mile drop, but 50 miles may do the trick or maybe even knock him out for a while. What comic was that done where NC ported 50 miles, xmarks?
Either way, if we can get the showings of Wolvie owning or beating NC in matches, ill have to give him and DD the win. If not, Wolvie gets ko'd and leaves DD to fend for himself vs Spidey and NC.