Originally posted by Grimm22
Im saying that these guys can beat Hulk 😉
Hulk broke Doom's forcefield once, and now that Hulk doesn't need to breathe I don't see how Mags can take him out.
I'm sure with Prep Doom could come up with something to nullify him but I don't know of anythign off the top of my head that could win it for him in his regular suit of armor.
Originally posted by Dalak
Hulk broke Doom's forcefield once, and now that Hulk doesn't need to breathe I don't see how Mags can take him out.I'm sure with Prep Doom could come up with something to nullify him but I don't know of anythign off the top of my head that could win it for him in his regular suit of armor.
Even without Prep, Doom has more than enougth gadgets on him as standerd equiptment.
Besides Hulk is stupid. The only reason that Thing has come close to beating Doom is becasue he is smart 😉
Originally posted by diabloman
offtopic anyone know a crossover where surfer and supes go at it ?
Originally posted by badabing
This was on the SS Respect thread.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5060737
Guess that clears that up......
Originally posted by Dalak
Hulk broke Doom's forcefield once, and now that Hulk doesn't need to breathe I don't see how Mags can take him out.I'm sure with Prep Doom could come up with something to nullify him but I don't know of anythign off the top of my head that could win it for him in his regular suit of armor.
Dude, yeah right. 🙄 Mags would pwn Hulk. 😉
Eh, i see people are posting crap about Venom here. Anywayz, wasn't it agreed that Superman was weakened during that crossover as it was placed in the Dc time line? Superman's all abilities were weakened.
About Juggs vs Venom. I don't see a problem with the fight. Venom didn't actually hurt Juggernaut at all. He just threw Juggs around. Nothing else. No where in the Maddness series does it say that Venom's strength was amplified. Can be wrong though.
When has venom lifted a tank? I can't recall such situation. M1A1 Abrams weights like 63 - 69 tons. Which is A LOT. M4 Sherman 62 tons. Panther tank 45 tons. Lights tanks weight around 20 tons. T-34 medium tank weights 30.9 tons. Most modern tanks weights around 60 tons.
I have no Idea how much A SWAT tank would weights. Couldn't find anything on the net either. Someone said a SWAT tank would weights 30 tons, got evidences?
Originally posted by Grimm22
Even without Prep, Doom has more than enougth gadgets on him as standerd equiptment.Besides Hulk is stupid. The only reason that Thing has come close to beating Doom is becasue he is smart 😉
The current Hulk isn't that stupid at all. And I was asking for examples, I'm not saying he couldn't beat Hulk I was jsut saying I couldn't think of anything off teh top of my head.
Originally posted by batdude123
Dude, yeah right. 🙄 Mags would pwn Hulk. 😉
*sigh* That's why I was asking. "I don't see how" means "I'd like to be proven wrong"
Hulk's body should be able to adjust any imbalances he tries to pull with his nervous system.
Hulk doesn't ahve to breathe so he can't pull a Sue Richards and 'Bubble' his head.
Magneto can't go on teh defensive for long or else Hulk will breach his shielding as he has Doom's and so many others.
I suppose he could fling him into space, and I've heard mention of a wormhole now that I think about it, but Mag's psi shouldn't be able to screw with Hulk's mind. He's broken stronger holds before.
If there's anything I'm missing please don't hesitate to let me know.
Originally posted by Dalak
*sigh* That's why I was asking. "I don't see how" means "I'd like to be proven wrong"Hulk's body should be able to adjust any imbalances he tries to pull with his nervous system.
Hulk doesn't ahve to breathe so he can't pull a Sue Richards and 'Bubble' his head.
Magneto can't go on teh defensive for long or else Hulk will breach his shielding as he has Doom's and so many others.
I suppose he could fling him into space, and I've heard mention of a wormhole now that I think about it, but Mag's psi shouldn't be able to screw with Hulk's mind. He's broken stronger holds before.
If there's anything I'm missing please don't hesitate to let me know.
He could create a cerebral hemerage or a stroke to his brain. Btw, Galactus actually tried to break Magneto's shield, but he wasn't able to. 😉 Mag's shield has only been broken ONCE, and that was when he wasn't even concentrating. He could seriously create a blackhole, or a wormhole to deal with Hulk. Btw, Mag's of now has shown tp even above Professor Xavier. He could give him an emp blast, which would shut off all of Hulk's major functions in the brain, and nervous system. Even in a severly weakened state, he had the energy output of Havok. He has complete and utter control over one of the four primal forces in the universe. Yeah, he would take down the Hulk. 😉 The old bastard is powerful. 😄
Originally posted by batdude123
He could create a cerebral hemerage or a stroke to his brain. Btw, Galactus actually tried to break Magneto's shield, but he wasn't able to. 😉 Mag's shield has only been broken ONCE, and that was when he wasn't even concentrating. He could seriously create a blackhole, or a wormhole to deal with Hulk. Btw, Mag's of now has shown tp even above Professor Xavier. He could give him an emp blast, which would shut off all of Hulk's major functions in the brain, and nervous system. Even in a severly weakened state, he had the energy output of Havok. He has complete and utter control over one of the four primal forces in the universe. Yeah, he would take down the Hulk. 😉 The old bastard is powerful. 😄
Originally posted by batdude123
He could create a cerebral hemerage or a stroke to his brain. Btw, Galactus actually tried to break Magneto's shield, but he wasn't able to. 😉 Mag's shield has only been broken ONCE, and that was when he wasn't even concentrating. He could seriously create a blackhole, or a wormhole to deal with Hulk. Btw, Mag's of now has shown tp even above Professor Xavier. He could give him an emp blast, which would shut off all of Hulk's major functions in the brain, and nervous system. Even in a severly weakened state, he had the energy output of Havok. He has complete and utter control over one of the four primal forces in the universe. Yeah, he would take down the Hulk. 😉 The old bastard is powerful. 😄
I think that Hulk would be able to survive the stroke, he's regrown a large chunk of his head in the time it took a tear to drop after all, as well as healed damage from Pym in his spinal collumn rather quickly despite his bodies immune defences disolving adamantium coated probes of Richards design. Same for the Emp blast, sicne those come with the Nukes he's survived before.
Black Hole? Hulk MIGHT be able to punch it out, after his Time Storm Punch, but a wormhole would leave him stranded as it did already.
I'd like to see some examples of his TP that put him over Xavier though.
E: Oh yes, was Galactus actually trying to kill Mags, or did he just blast him once? And what was his feeding schedule at that time?
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Powers and abilities
The Master of MagnetismArguably the most powerful being on the planet, Magneto is a mutant with the superhuman power of magnetokinesis.[1]
Magneto can shape and manipulate magnetic fields that exist naturally or artificially. It is unclear, however, whether he must draw magnetic force from outside himself (if so, then he can do so over vast distances). It could also be that he can both naturally generate and draw on the earth's magnetic field to increase his power, effectively making him both a reservoir and a conduit.
As the Master of Magnetism, he can lift, move, and alter objects (sometimes weighing many thousands of tons) through magnetic force alone, manipulate the iron-enriched blood-flow to one's brain to induce aneurysms or unconsciousness, control ferrous particles in the atmosphere (even the very air), alter the Earth's magnetic field which extends into space as the Magnetosphere, increase his own strength to the extent of being able to exchange blows with at least Colossus, erect electro-magnetic force fields with a high degree of impenetrability (protecting himself or others from almost any psionic, energy, or physical attack), and achieve an indefinite range of other effects.
Magneto's power is for all practical purposes limitless. With the primal forces of nature at his command, Magneto has stopped armies, raised islands from ocean floors, moved mountains and threatened to devastate the world with apocalyptic floods and earthquakes. Magneto once blanketed half the globe with a self-generated electro-magnetic pulse that caused widespread devastation.
Magneto can use his magnetic powers in more than one way simultaneously. He can completely assemble a complicated machine within seconds through his powers. Although Magneto often gestures when using his magnetic powers, he can utilize them fully even when standing totally still merely by concentrating.
Magnus is tied very closely to the Earth's EM Field. As it is affected, so is he. He knows instinctively all that happens to it, and with this link is granted an odd sort of immortality. The Earth lends him strength by its simple existence. He draws on it all unconsciously.
Magneto's ability to wield his superhuman powers effectively is dependent upon his physical condition. When severely injured, his body is unable to withstand the strain of manipulating great amounts of magnetic forces. When his powers are not at their peak, he appears to have greater difficulty controlling forces other than magnetism.
Magneto usually protects himself with a personal forcefield that he can quickly expand to protect large areas. His forcefield has withstood the affects of multiple nuclear weapons, volcanic eruption, the depths of space and attacks from multiple Avengers or X-men, as well as Phoenix, Thor, and even Galactus. It is possible he is changing the energy of the attacks, rather than simply blunting their impact. Magneto seems to be able to sense the changes in energy fields that predict such attacks, allowing him to shield energy attacks as fast as lasers despite having little or no warning. By concentrating Magneto can perceive the world around himself solely as patterns of magnetic and electrical energy. He can perceive the natural magnetic auras surrounding living beings, as well.
Although Magneto's primary power is magnetism, he seems to have some ability to project or manipulate any form of energy that is related to magnetism. He can fire and absorb bolts of electricity and of pure magnetic force, reverse lasers and other forms of radiation or energy when fired at him, create enough intense heat as infrared radiation to destroy a metal door, and become invisible by deflecting visible light around his body, as he is able to manipulate the entire electromagnetic spectrum. (He has also dispersed a "flame cage" created by the original Human Torch, but whether he had simply expanded his personal force field or employed something else entirely is unclear.) However, Magneto almost always uses magnetism, so perhaps it is more difficult for him to manipulate other forms of energy.
Magneto has the ability to manipulate gravitational fields possibly via gravitomagnetic effects. He can open wormholes through spacetime. In addition, he can create anti-gravity fields and does so whenever he levitates non-magnetic objects. When the imposter Xorn was disguised as Magneto, he increased his powers fifteen times over with the Kick drug, and the Stepford Cuckoos said that he was now powerful enough to 'do something to gravity and time'. However, Magneto tends to use magnetism.
Magneto is a skilled strategist and hand-to-hand combatant.